You're not alone. Sometimes I think those of us who are even remotely aware of any of this shit should band together and start some big, ambitious project to keep some remnant of what we were alive.

Just know that you're not the only one who's alittle apprehensive about the future.

Of course everything goes even worse, 2012 is coming XD


No serious, I think there need to be some major change in the way mankind uses its surroundings. And of course the addiction to oil, we know it will be gone probably around 2050 and no one really seems to care. Except those guys on Discovery Channel ^^;

There is the posibility of even slipping into another great war, it depends on how we act now and will act in the future if we want to avoid bigger problems.

can't have that, every one associates WW3 with nuclear apocalypse don't they?

I dont think that it will get nuclear cause if you have more than one nuke you have something to lose. The dangerous guy is the one with only 1nuke.

I think more of wars in areas were water, food, energy and oil supply shirnks or even vanish. They will take what they need by force. This will take always bigger circles like a stone thrown into water.
Or if countrys start to lose power due to such shortcuts they will try to prevent that by taking it from others. If they would nuke that area they cant win or take supplys from there cause it would be radioactive wasteland or simply contaminated.


Very interesting video and song btw if you want to listen to it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwELajFteTo&;

Ugh, it's kind of a painful realization that any war like that isn't going to be over here where "civilized" people will be in harms way... it'll be over there. It'll be in the deserts or the jungles where both the impoverished masses and the forgotten in our military will all be wasted while we sit here in sweet, comfortable apathy watching our little reality shows and playing our little videogames.

Maybe someone would even make a reality show about it, maybe something like World's Funniest Casualties. Good times.

There will be even in the "civilized" areas military operations if resources such as food, oil and water will be allot in the population. Resource poor countries will take it from resource rich countries. In some parts of the US there are first signs of waterproblems and in the future they will need even more water with growing population. Where will they get it from? Iraq? Saraha desert? No, they probably will take canadian lake reservoirs or similar areas where still sweet water is avaiable. Oil is also much up in Alaska and gas in Russia.

If we dont chance we will have hard times.

aye that can be agreed upon, water of course cannot be destroyed we just have to find more efficiant ways to used the fresh water we have, and maybe have to turn to desalination if push really came to shove, we are far too reliant on oil and I almost wish there was a forced "peak oil" so we can find alternatives before we're actually without the stuff. And of course the biggest problem is breeding too damn much right? Why is our culture so focused on procreation so much? I really think we need better attitudes towards homosexuality and birth control, especially religiously.

They are in fact looking for more green ways to satisfy our growing hunger for energy. The breeding is in richer countries in a fall, in some areas are even such a cutback in birthrates that it is in the minus and without immigration the population would sink.
As you see here the birthrate of Europe is sinking right now into the minus, Afrika has the biggest grow right after Asia and Southern America.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped.....28UN%29_de.svg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped....._countries.PNG

What I wish what should be forced more is the technology of Fusion Reactor. Using Deuterium (won out of Ocean Water) and Tritium (a waste of Nuclear Power Plant). It would let us use the power of the sun itself and the 2ingridients are plentiful on earth. Just the reactor need some more research.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDAZsPkTkMM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQE-YIzDpQc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF7xRYZZ7ME

maybe the population thing will straight itself out then, I don't mind immigration as long as the population is distributed to a degree that more people could have the quality of life they need, we'll have to see how attitudes change towards it in the future.

instead of "as long" I should say "given that" maybe.

The US probably needs to become a bit more isolationist for awhile. We are blessed with a wonderful land with extensive room to utilize.
If people could give up a little on luxuries, work not harder, but for more meaningful ends, we could doubtless end the end the oil dependence, go largely electric, redevelop a sense of community and actual interpersonal communications/understanding. But the likelihood of all of this? About Zero. :>

Either we learn to do it on our own terms, or we are forced to do it later

it's not easy for Gen x, either. although a lot of Gen X are professionals, there are still those of us from the "physical labour or nothing" type of family. and we know where that kind of job went; overseas. the US no longer manufactures much. we're turning into a "server" nation in the way our remaining jobs have popped up.

the original "lost generation" were the poor shits killed in the Useless Great War (the centennial of which is approching fast).

Gen X will be the first to feel the bite of "no money" over here.

another 20 years will finally allow Gen X to replace the boomers in how things are run, and I'm betting there will be a significant difference in the way things are run.

Maybe, but it seems like corporate entities are really the ones in charge now, arent.

I wouldn't worry about it. What is happening now has happened time and time again for hundreds of generations to millions of people. We are living history in the making. Right now you'll find that this is the best time in history to be a creative person - which you are, I am, almost every furry I've ever met - is pretty damn creative. :)

It is in these times of historic darkness that the thinkers will most often rise up and change things. We, the ones who were looked down upon for being different or weird, will always be the ones who produce the greatest changes for our world. Look back at history and study closely how the 'downcasts' of society rose up to bring their fellows out of darkness and depression. It isn't fantasy. These things have happened throughout history, and will be certain to happen again. I'm not worried... because its going to be people like us who fix the world.

Yeah, I kind of get this way when you I to all the conspiracy stuff out there I suppose