Yeah that happened to me when I used it. I also didn't notice any significant difference in my reps or maxes.

'K, so it's not just me. I did notice an increase in my reps, but no, not what I would call considerable.

L-Arginine forms nitric oxide and lowers blood pressure. It is extremely dangerous for use by people with heart disease.

It also increases stomach acid, and has been known to cause ulcers.

It also alters potassium levels and can be harmful to the liver and kidneys.

It also increases sugar levels and should not be used by people with diabetes, liver, or kidney disease.

It can worsen the symptoms of herpes.

It should never be mixed with NSAIDs (Aspirin, Ibuprofin, Naproxen, Acetametophan), diuretics, or potassium supplements.

I'm pretty clear on all of these, but I've been drinking gatorade during my workouts, (high in potassium), maybe that has something to do with it.

Probably, plus gatorade is actually bad for causing gastric buildup, so it could be the result of stress on your digestive system.

I'd reccomend not using L-arginine and lace your gatorade with a half-and-half mixture of water. Gatorade is a little more concentrated than most people need, it's more of a medical supplement in my opinion. It's a bit too rich on electrolytes and potassium for the average excersizer.

I've got a LOT of experience with excersize and stomach issues, having Chron's disease. And gatorade has brought me to ulcers on multiple ocassions.

Also, a glass of milk a half hour after a workout (if you don't plan to do anymore) helps a lot for soothing muscles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUcjNuCm8io

I think they were drinking LSD, not gatorade. c.c

In case the above was too cryptic, i'd reccomend against using it, as it's very harsh on your body compared to many other performance enhancing supplements. Generally a good protein shake and simple vitamin supplements are the most effective real gains, even if they don't cause the immediate improvement other chemicals do. Many come with a trade-off, by either being a stimulant or little more than a poorly understood placebo effect. Just be sure to drink a good deal of water and balance your protease-mass ratio and you should find the most gains in muscle mass and strength over time. Sadly, like most things with biology, it takes hard work and persevering to get a gain without a cost (aside from time and patience).

I do reccomend nootropics however for their use in improving the oxygen flow to the brain, as it reduces workout fatigue and helps boost the sense of well-being. Piracetam is my favorite, as it's extremely cheap and pretty effective in 250-500mg doses an hour or two before workouts. It has no known side effects, but can also help relieve migraines and muscular stress headaches. It's used medically to treat aneurryms and victims of suffocation, asphyxiation, choking, and drowning because it reduces the damage to the brain from oxygen loss. In particularly extreme workouts this is actually possible, heavy stressing of the muscles can deprive the brain of oxygen and cause all kinds of bad things, and Piracetam helps prevent this.

Cool, thanks, I'll give nootropics a look. Currently I'm taking bcaa's tablets before and after my workout, along with a protein/glutamine shake right after, which I notice does considerably help decrease my healing time.

Those should be fine so long as you don't have any major health issues, as far as i'm aware.

But yeah, Piracetam is the cheapest and best understood nootropic, so I reccomend it over the others. Lots of science has got into Piracetam while the others? They could be harmful and noone knows yet, because they're very new.

I swear by Piracetam because I always get this post-workout head-fog, and Piracetam got rid of that totally for me.


(It's also pretty awesome for enhacing the effects of pot... not that I do pot. c.c)

Here's where you can buy 1oz of powder for cheap: http://www.ecrater.com/p/10094990/1.....ic-pure-powder

Or in pill form: http://www.tfsupplements.com/store/.....ail&p=2749

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedh.....th/PMH0002162/

Does any of that help?

Well, I think my potassium levels are pretty good, I don't go crazy with the gatorade, and the way I lift, potassium is pretty useful.

I get that effect too. Apparently its something to do with potentiation of blood pressure (i.e. it lowers it). I also don't like glutamine either - that savoury taste lingers with me for hours! eeuughhh!

Yeah, I'm likely dropping it, at this point. With the glutamine, I'd only get the after-taste for a few minutes, but I've been taking it with my protein for a while, and found I can't really taste it at all, anymore.

Ahhh, I get my protein in unflavoured bulk so, unfortunately, it doesn't taste strong enough to mask the glutamine flavour. However tonight I tried mixing it with super-strong squash and downing it... and the taste was more bearable. ;)

not me :3 didn't notice anything bad. tastes awful, but surrrrrre makes it easy to get erections. i also take stJohn's and Piracetam... and caffeine.. so.. im a hornball 24/7 and hardly sleep X3 pffff

Add egg whites to your protein shakes, lots of egg whites.

I like Alpha T1 it helps boost Testosterone. And I have had good results, with minimal side effects. I can do more set, more reps, and more weight. For recovers I use Creatine, but I don't know if it is helping, I still get sore.