Good luck! b^^

You are ready to start a new path.
And I for one am greatly anticipating your future work.
:)

SUPER CHIBI! x3

That would be something. ._.

Happy new year, and looking forwards to what you share with us.

To broader horizons bigger and better things, Greater mountains, wider valleys, longer... somethings... I'm failing and multiple entendres

You've mastered your style while I'm still choosing a medium. d: Oh the envy. Best of wishes for the new year though!

Be happy with your style first and let the fun happen.

Good on ya, Nori!

I don't see many vehicles drawn around these days, so that is what I am learning this month.

Earned your black belt in the Fwoomping Arts have you? 'Gratz.
Now, keep that pen away from me.

Less tanukis?

Oh, make no mistake, subject matter will remain the same. It's the execution I'm interested in.

I make no mistakes. I just make leading and loaded statements!

Yay! Competition! *bounce*

no you haven't

Aww, whassamatter, were the two whole paragraphs after too hard for you?

again, no you haven't

Hmm, somebody's taking remedial Reading courses this semester! Please, do continue to insist on ideas you haven't properly formed.

why are you wasting your time making responses if you have formed the thought that I cannot properly read

again, no you haven't

Look down for your reply, I don't write this crap twice.

somebody casually challenges your bold assertion and you instantly become defensive and snide

classy



protip: this is not mastery; it's stagnation

Let me guess, you're a friend of this eloquent person. Well, if either of you had bothered to actually take the time and think about what I typed, you'd realize that the entire point of the journal was to reach beyond the limits of what I've already done, based on the fact that there's nowhere else to go with it. But, no. All you or the other guy can see is that a much inferior artist like myself is even daring to utter the word 'master,' so oh boy, it's time to bust out the meaningless 4chan regurgitation and snark him back to the stone age!

Well, guess what, asshole? I can do it, too, and if Doctor Casual over here really wanted to make a point, he could've exercised a few more muscles and done it in the first place. But no, he chose to start a pointless argument, and I obliged him. Now both of you look like titanic douchebags, and yet all I can really think about is when I used to go around doing the same thing, starting shit for no other reason than that it offended my eyes.

You're not original, you're not scoring any 'cool' points, and you don't impress anyone. Cue either one of your one-upping replies.

again, you have not mastered anything, there is always somewhere you can go with a style -- otherwise the art becomes very stale and predictable

also, could you point out the "meaningless 4chan regurgitation" to me; I do not browse that site and thus I have no idea what you're referring to

protip, I am a female; this may help you stop using the wrong pronoun

p.s. you still seem to be under the impression that I do not read what you are saying or look at what you do, alas, this is not the case

If you go somewhere else with a style, it's not exactly that style anymore, now is it? So you're arguing that I should keep trying to improve the same style by moving outside of it. This is a total contradiction.

Improving the "same style" doesn't mean "drawing exactly the same thing without regard for improving" 8)

I would know a thing or two about what a style entails. As far as style goes, it is about what you personally draw, improving your signature style.

Don't give me this bullshit that "moving outside" of a style is a total contradiction to "improving the same style" because when *I* say style, I refer to a person's body of work, not a certain way that they draw a cartoon head.

I'll use an example to show what I mean. Picasso had a style; I'm not talking about just his cubist works. I'm talking about the way he worked on all pieces, realism or not. He had a style that he continued to improve throughout his life, adding and changing and learning all the while. He never stopped trying to improve his "style," his way of doing things.

To suggest that you have "mastered" your style simply because you don't want to/can't go anywhere with it is ridiculous.

In any case, I've gathered that you're not a serious artist. That's okay too, but you have not come close to mastering anything.

... You mean to tell me that I've been arguing with you, and we've been talking about two different things this entire time? I meant it in the 'way you draw a cartoon head' kind of way.

No wonder I couldn't make sense of anything you were saying.

what ok hold the phone



Yes, I showed her this journal in the first place because I knew it would.. pertain to her interests.

I don't see where you get off accusing anyone of snark when you're trying to maximize your rage per sentence. Chill. "no you haven't" is hardly some deeply offensive lure or even the kindling for an argument. She disagreed but didn't care enough to elaborate. Oh no! Must be one of them 4chan people since she's not worshiping you. Not like you can just ignore it or respond in kind with "yes I have"; no, let's be as big of a dick as possible in response to a drive-by disagreement.

Christ.

I don't care about looking cool to a bunch of furries who will never even read this. I also don't care how good or bad you are. Proclaiming mastery of a style like it's a good thing struck me as patently absurd; while you were busy practicing the same thing over and over you could have actually been experimenting and improving, rather than obsessively polishing the same style to a mirror sheen. You're excited to have finally reached a dead end you saw coming a long ways off. That's silly.

Are we done now, or do you need to fume over nothing some more?

So you brought somebody over here to start an argument, got involved when I didn't put anymore thought into my replies than she did, and now you wanna seem like the bigger guy because you're so calm about being a douche, and ooh, I'm so angry when I do it.

Give me a break. I'm not going to give in to your increasingly bizarre and moronic arguments, and you're not going to stop trying to paint yourself and your friend up, because you're such a good guy, after all.

A real artist never becomes better, they only learn how to suck less. Quite frankly, I've seen a lot better.

Way to completely not contradict yourself in the same sentence.

Oh, you :3

http://lulz.net/furi/res/448749.html

personally, I applaud your decision to expand your artistic horizons and aim for more difficult styles. I bet that, once you develop additional skills, you'll find new ways to express or expand your current style.

Thanks for the link. It looks like this whole thing is just happening because nobody knows what I'm talking about. *laughs* They think I mean something totally different than what I actually mean.

Isn't that the root of most every conflict?

Keep on drawin' smut, you.

Yeah, I have a feeling you're right.

Oh, and indubitably. Maybe you should give it a try!

Flattered, but no, my creative energy is sacrificed on other altars. :)

Surely there must be some way of evidencing the blood spatter!

The pure mention of the word "master" in connection with the examples I see in your gallery makes my bullshit sense tingle.

But let's keep this civilized: While I'm not saying you didn't achieve anything I am very well saying that you apparently misunderstood the basic concepts of "learning": Your "style" is not anywhere near the perfection you claim, be it technical or anatomical, so why would you want it to be like this?

I advise you to get some distance to your pictures and take a close look at them again in - let's say - three days and you might actually reconsider what you wrote up there. 'Cuz, you know, euphoria does strange things to people.

And then, if you still are like "Nope, this is exactly what I want it to look like", you might just be stupid and there lies no point for me at all in writing those things. Have a nice day.

No, I'm not going to reconsider it. And do you know why? Because none of the people like yourself reading it understood what I meant at all. You saw 'master' and assumed I meant 'mastered artwork in general,' which I never said. All I said was that the tenets and limits of one particular way of drawing things has reached its peak, because I can do it consistently. Indeed, it's because the art is so limited that I need to move outside of something that makes me draw simplistically. In essence, you're agreeing with me.

Okay, I'll give you that. English is not my first language, but I'm trying my best here.

Still, the whole "mastery" business seems a bit exaggerated to me. Let's pretend instead of drawing you learned how to play the guitar. Would your journal entry then be about how you "mastered" the art of putting your finger on the E-string?

Not at all, and I'll give you a couple of examples as to why.

Angus Young, Lead Guitarist of the band AC/DC. If you listen to his work in its entirety, the only thing he ever plays is Blues scales and Power Chords composed of them. He literally never, in any of his songs, wanders outside of this preset pattern of notes- a fact that has stagnated his work for over a decade. Thus it wouldn't be any stretch to say that he's mastered that style of guitar-playing; because there's nowhere else to go with it, he can do it without effort, and he can't make it go any further.

As another example, Jim Davis, author of the newspaper comic Garfield, started out with ill-proportioned versions of the characters we see today. They were wider and taller and less expressive. At about 1995, he reached the absolute zenith of that style of artwork, and from that point, it hasn't evolved, not one little bit. Now, he's admitted that he made this comic for money, but all the same, I don't think it's outrageous to say that he's mastered that style.

My point in all of this was that there's no reason that the realization that my art has reached a point where it's not going anywhere is a negative thing that I have to be ashamed of. It just means that the big-headed, sausage-fingered, exaggerated way I do things right now is pretty much at its best- that particular way of drawing isn't going to get any better because it's exactly the way I want and need it to look. But all that means is that I've got a lot more work to do exploring other, more challenging artistic pursuits. Anime, Western Animation, realism, there's a whole lot to be had.

And by the way, your English is excellent, don't sell yourself short there. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not awesome at always getting at exactly what I'm talking about- a fact that friends and family members bemoan. :)

I'm glad I took a reading comprehension course. Apparently that puts me way ahead of a bunch of people. >_>