It sounds like the movie industry is at the bottom of the barrel for movie ideas...

What I don't understand is there is plenty of room to make another movie like the 1st and 2nd. It's not like surviving dinos on an island is an overdone genre. Excluding direct to DVD/TV stuff, Jurassic park is the only movie I know of that's done it in my lifetime outside of the newer King Kong.

I hope Michael Bay is the director, then they have everything. Dinosaurs, Explosions, and Giant robots....ROBOT DINOSAURS FIGHTING GIANT ROBOTS.....oh wait....thats the new transformer movie.

Possibly the Jaws 3 problem: Each film they try to outdo the last, until it just gets too silly to suspend disbelief.

What? Now allosaurcanos erupting and spewing out giant predators spliced with molten lava? Tch.

I'm not surprised anymore. Let's be alcoholics together *hic*

Better than dino-people at least. I may find interesting the new... spliced creature, even if the scenario is a little bit... over the top.

This could end up so bad its fun, but wouldn't hold my breath.
Maybe I'll go to see it if my father shows interest on our weekly movie run.
other than that "Diabolus Rex?" Sounds like something that should be put in a Monster Hunter game

"good" is a synonym for "profitable for us" term by humans.
Good animal = cattle what fks up the original fauna
Bad animal = wild animal what even if not "kills cattle/chicken occasionally" , are considered bad as it does not hurl profit for the land "owner"

There have been incidents in the past of farmers deliberately trying to wipe out protected species, in order to remove the land from the control of federal endangered species law. If they can't graze their cattle or plant their crops because the endangered desert tortoise calls the land home... well, just look at it from their point of view: The government is placing the importance of a tortoise above that of a long-established industry integral to American culture and history. So they do the obvious: 'Accidental' fires, leaky tanks, things like that.

After the Bundy incident a few gangs of rednecks went out on tortoise-stomping rounds. Illegal as hell, of course, but difficult to prove.

This is why we need an open season on dipshits.

Here in hungary, we have so retarded and lazy laws as hell. Here if a protected species cause you loss of value, guess what, the government are not going to refund you. So thats why *somehow* eagles and other birds get poisoned.

I think after JP3, I had lost my taste for the Jurassic Park movies.

Then I watched Godzilla, and lost interest in movies.

I'm...stupefied. Did I even spell that correctly? It's just...no. My brain cannot compute, I'm sorry :/ It's like they're setting out to ruin every good-awful thing that I like. Vampires, zombies and now dinosaurs? Give me a break :/ T-Rexes cannot be the good guys. They -especially- cannot be good guys in a 'serious' movie. Only in comedies (think Toy Story) where this kind of thing actually makes sense in its own way.

A T-Rex, raptor, snake, and cuttlefish.

These people really don't know much about genetic sequences.

this sounds like Megashark vs Crocosaurus

If we're lucky, this will turn into so-bad-it's-good.

I too am getting a distinct element of... just checking, are we sure this isn't the Asylum version?

... Those who have viewed this have also viewed... "Velocirapteryx" .... wtf... Doesn't really look like either of those creatures that name implies.

"Business is good at the park, but the powers that be start to dream up new ways to keep customers coming back..."

So actual fucking dinosaurs just doesn't cut it? Really? REALLY? Bringing back extinct legendary species from millions of years ago just doesn't have enough pull, but the Snuggy, SciFi channel, and Call of Duty sequels are considered successful business models...

Also sounds like they took their genetic biology advice from Rick and Morty.

This movie... I'll meet you at the bar. cheers.

And hell, it's not like normal zoos have a hard time staying open. At least I know that, in the US, they are still some of the most widely popular attractions for both local residents and tourists! And sure zoos and themeparks still have to innovate to stay interesting, but they don't resort to altering the genetics of their animals to do so XD

If they need new critters, there are potentially BILLIONS of the damn things lying around that could be brought back. Make a Dodo exhibit that is just one huge Salvador Dali omage mingling with pigs wearing flight goggles.

Giant sloths, horse precursors that were the size of giraffes if I remember. Oh what about large predatory extinct birds?

See, now this would be the smartest plan by far!

The smaller leptictidiums would make great pets, and only extinct half as long as the dinos. The dodos are a given, of course, simply for being so iconic - even though they are actually rather uninteresting birds.

There was an episode of The Outer Limits that had some fun with genetically engineers pets as items of high society, with the wealthy trying to out-do each other by getting ever more exotic and unique creations to remain on the forefront of fashion. There was a great scene with some dumb rich lady going to an exasperated bioengineering specimen and demanding a pegasus, resulting in him giving a quite annoyed rant explaining exactly why you cannot simply strap wings on a horse and expect it to fly.

"Tell me, do you have a private jet?"
"I do."
"Does it run on hay?"

CURRENTLY ON SET AT JPW
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Seems legit.

"I'm not the one who who who haphazardly, you know, mixed a bunch of nonsense together and created a bunch of cronenbergs!"

If they could manage to make a movie half as entertaining as that show I might actually watch it...

I'm guessing it'd have something to do with the setting being on an earth not quite as enthused with the novelty of revivified, thriving dinosaurs availed to the public in the form of a massive, interactive safari as it was something like two decades earlier, when the park presumably debuted, and that t-rex got loose. We get bored with stuff in a decade's time, hate to say it. Naturally, I digress, I'd want to live there, myself. I haven't so much as an inkling as to what the timeline might be like though, couldn't really be assed to delve into that myself.

If the timeline is too far in the future to where interest in dinosaurs becomes weak (highly doubt that would ever happen) then you would probably loose the audience's ability to suspend disbelief.

We'll go to movie theater to watch Jurassic World because we love dinosaurs just as much as we did with JP1, only to have the movie start in a time where the average park guest is no longer thrilled with that very subject. It seems a bit counter to what we all believe and no longer becomes a world that we as the audience can relate to. One of the major themes of the first film was that that dinosaurs have always, and will always inspire awe and wonder for better or worse. And when in the real world, their petrified skeletons still draw in millions of tourists from around the globe (as they have for decades) to museums and such, then a park that kept living resurrected specimens would undoubtedly become the next great wonder of the world! So the thought of them needing to "find new ways to keep customers coming back" as if the park isn't meeting expectations just seems too far-fetched to me. And if that was in some way possible, then destroying the genetics of your animals would be the last thing they would want to attempt.

Also just imagine how many watchdog groups, and regulatory agencies have formed regarding genetic tampering after the first JP incident. There is no way that this 'Jurassic World' (now fully open to the public) could pull off such brazen genetic tampering with such potentially hostile creatures without having extensive regulatory inspection groups denying every crackpot idea they come up with XD

It just seems like anything the film-makers could do to make this idea work would just loose the audience and ruin the immersion. JP 1 was so awesome because it felt like it almost could happen! Or at least, you were willing to suspend your disbelief because you wanted it to happen. I don't think anyone wants to (or could) believe that a park with dinosaurs in it could suffer from a "lack" of attendance XD

And I also mentioned to that even by today's standards we still have zoo's, themeparks, and national nature parks, seeing plenty of attendance and all of which have been around for several decades. And as they also pointed out in another comment, innovation could come with just making additional exhibits from different extinct periods like the Ice Age, or the Age of Giant Mammals. No need to go to extremes and start squirting snake and cuttlefish into your Rex DNA.

Sorry for making such a long winded comment. It's just that the more I think about a Jurassic Park needing to boost it's attendance numbers, the more ridiculous the notion becomes XD And when this is the overall issue that moves the rest of the plot forward... well you can see why I just think it's so dumb XD

I'm sorry for the tardy reply, I lost all motivation when I'd tippety-tapped up a response that at least resembled this one I think (at least in character), but was swallowed whole by that special sort of opportunistic phone behavior. I typed it up from my computer this time. Note: I employ language that would imply a brusque tone, but this is totally casual discourse.

According to the synopsis, the park's administrators wish to maintain the novelty and intrigue of just what the park proffers and represents by producing more than just dinosaurs; this implies that interest is waning, and that's only because, well, to the average consumer... Dinosaurs are so nineties, man, and this is thusly pressuring those people to once again push the boundary of just what gene splicing can do, and by consequence press their foot into the delicate substances of natural evolution and the global ecosystem to see how far they can go before the surface tension gives way, they and humanity et al are irreparably balls deep, and the world is on a crash course with either Planet of the Apes or M. Night Shyamalan's After Earth (that's sort of always been the not-too-subtle message and pellucid conclusion of the franchise and unlikely transition into another, but that's an aside).

Of course you wouldn't lose interest, but that's because you don't, yourself, live in that alternate reality where humans have been making dinosaurs and living aliens in a candy factory-- to allegorize just how easy the practice is made to seem between the three films and this fourth film's brief proto-synopsis-- for some decades. It doesn't stop being interesting, per se; humanity's honeymoon with revived animal species (but not necessarily the science itself) just waxes cold at some point, either briefly after the t-rex attack, or sometime well afterward. It doesn't help that we only really get to analyze the storyline from the perspectives of either researchers and employees, or the only people whose wealth affords going to the island annually vs. Disneyworld VIP suites or trips to Michael Jackson's clandestine island resort. THOSE consumers-- probably by far the most profitable consumer-base-- are likely far more interested in visiting the moon someday and quite possibly Atlantis much sooner than another trip to Jurassic Park. Posh baby Richard's been going there since he was a knee-high little shit, and he's a grown man now, with trust funds of his own to manage.

There're adults in their twenties that probably got to pet a brachiosaur in the third grade, and this would apply to just about anyone in the Jurassic Park continuum, along with all that's implied thenceforth. In, say, the ST: Next Generation's timeline, traveling lightyears away from earth, through distant galaxies, to visit Vulcan probably had all the allure of accompanying someone on a business trip to New York City. It's cool because it's novel to them, but they're adapted to this, traveling from earth to Vulcan is pretty much like visiting London from Atlanta, and it eventually loses its novelty. "Deep space exploration is where the excitement is!", so on and so forth. You can't relate to people from Jurassic Park's earth, they live on an ideological frontier beyond our own, and my fifty-ton disbelief would critically fail to suspend if they acted otherwise; I'm kind of a niche demographic anyway, though. To the average consumer planning to see the film, if a massive dinosaur safari doesn't in itself mandate thoroughly checking all disbelief at the cinema's threshold, I can't imagine they'd much enjoy what might turn out to be this franchise's equivalent of Star Wars: Episode One, or "Now It Begins: How I Failed To But Will By At Least The Third Installment Learn to Accept That it Can Always Get Much Worse: The Movie: Part 0.33", to be milked further with an animated series if it performs well at the box office ala Jumanji, MIB, The Mummy, Ghost Busters, etcetera, etc. But at least those shows _{(not necessarily each of the films)} were good _{or maybe that's just me}.

Why are people always trying to breed/gene-splice dinosaurs with every other animal on the face of this planet?!
They aren't some fantasy creatures that consist of all animals!
The JP movies already started to bend the realities of gene spicing with science fiction using AMPHIBIANS to genetically create dinosaurs. WHY CEPHALOPODS TOO?

I think I'm going to down four fingers of bourbon so I can try to forget this is probably happening.

Actually... I think would have preferred dino-human hybrids than this monstrosity, however, if they did that, they may as well make a Torak movie.

And weren't there a few species of dinosaurs that actually were speculated to have color changing skin like a chameleon? And weren't they in one of the JP games?

The amphibian part isn't that implausible. They didn't say which genes. There are a lot of genes common between humans and fruit flies - extensively studied, too. The damaged sections may be just some dull proteins - essential for life, but not dino-unique.

The bit about the spliced amphibian DNA giving them sex-changing abilities, on the other hand, is nonsense.

That makes sense I suppose, but we'd have to get a geneticist to confirm that speculation. I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, just saying that I don't know enough to say 'yeah, that's right!' We're all made up of similar protein strains and chemical components as the animals we share a planet with, but would they be able to replace the ones already in our gene sequence? Dunno! I personally think it could be plausible, but that's what's great about science fiction- it takes science that is plausible and bends (well, more like stretches the boundaries of it) it to create a fantasy world. I love that.

The sex-change abilities didn't make much sense to me because, if they really wanted the threat of reproduction in this fantasy world, they could have used monitor lizard DNA instead. Most monitor lizards have been known to clone themselves if they have suitable diets and environments- kinda like the whip-tail lizards! That would have made more sense to me.

Though, I totally loved the JP books as a kid, so they could do no wrong with their storyline, haha. This movie however, blergh... :/

There's a good reason fruit flies are one of the standard animal model organisms. Fast lifecycle, easy to breed in captivity, and biochemically even flies share enough simularity to humans to be useful.

If you need something really, really close, use a mouse.

Very rarely is anything closer than a mouse needed - primates are used in research only when something with a closely similar brain and nervous system is required. For all things purely biochemical, a mouse is close enough, and getting a license for animal experiments on primates is very difficult in many countries. No-one cares how many mice are used in experiments.

I'm not gonna lie, I'm a bit excited about the "trained raptors." That's literally something I used to play at when I was little haha one of my favorite imaginative games.

/edgy unpopular opinion

I'm a bad critic though, being very easily entertained.

You know I wouldn't be entierly against it if it wasn't for the fact that each new JP movie is worse then the last, and this is just the kind of thing they'd screw up.

The T-rex though? Yeah... not happening. That'd be like a mouse training a cat.

Sounds epic to me but then again I'm weird and liked the 1998 cgi godzilla movie

If you really think about it, the third one seems like it was made by a kid.

So like, a kid lands on the island because he wanted to see dinos and he crashes. Dinosaur experts and mercenaries come to the island to save him but they get rekt and the 13 year old buy saves the day because hes so much smarter and resourceful then them and AWESOME! Also the raptors can talk clearly and they use navy seal tactics and there is a T-rex 2.0 who's bigger and stronger and beats the T-rex. The end!

This all sounds like some kind of bad fanfiction. Sadly I am not surprised anymore, Hollywood has been becoming more and more deprived of its properties as time goes on. They seem to be willing to do anything. I am just waiting for the reveal that its also being co-directed by M. Night Salami (I can't spell his damn name and have little respect to it anyway).

Wait, did they take that concept of the Diabolus Rex from the damn arcade game? I remember a dino enemy boss that acted JUST like what they describe. The... Carnotaurus it was called, and it occasionally disappeared and reappeared to attack. It even had horns on it that... made it look devilish.

I am not interested in the series anymore, its pretty much lost me. If this is all really true then I expect I will be seeing more and more nonsense from movies from here on out. Its Hollywood and I am just gonna read more books instead.

Excuse me, I'm going to lay down in the middle of my floor and weep for the next 10 years.
I used to love those movies, and now...
They soiled it.

... pardon me while I plug my ears to keep my brains from melting out of my head....

That is the worst idea I've heard. Somebody is not following the franchise and decided to come up with their own ridiculous pipe dream.

*facepalm and headdesk*

i really hope that 'snake jaws' part means some good vore is on the way

Reminds me of Mother 3.

Fuck, I thought it was going to be a game when I'd begun reading that.

That synopsis reads like that of a Home Alone sequel. As read off the back of the colorful VHS box,
The bad dinos are wreaking havoc on the island, but this time, our intrepid youths have overbearingly protective GOOD dinos on their side! Will they stop those silly, greedy adults from splicing one too many unnatural sequence combinations before they get the island shut down FOR GOOD?
And then the following kids network series'll feature a new Dino every Saturday to string the kid audience along; that Jurassic Park was ever so much as PG-13 will be struck from recent memory.


Haven't films with loud, bumptious, boisterous pre-adolescents as protagonists in screenplays better written for matured audiences seen their day? As it is, the only movie of that particular variety for which I'll suspend an exhalation is the new Goonies remake. Hell, I never hold my breath for new movies anymore. They're going to ream me dry with that remake, and I'm gonna let them because it's Goonies. At least I'll get to never say "die" one more time.

On another note, it does look like some thinly veiled left agitprop. There are elements about that synopsis alone that stink of, "And remember, capitalism is bad, mmm'kay?".

Wow.... So they get the park up and running (finally) and they are worried about keeping people coming? You know, to the worlds ONLY park with actual dinos? Sure it sucks having to take a chopper out to a island every time but it keeps them from getting loose in towns so its a good thing.
Training dinos ... So this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfuKoXH0amc
The mutant dino sounds kind of cool but either the characters in the movie forgot to watch Man's Best Friend or the writers DID watch it and ripped it off. But honestly, what could you use to terrorize dinos? A mutant dino obviously.
I'll probably go to see this just for laughs and it'll be a good movie so long as I can turn my brain off and stop analyzing it and just watch the pretty colors and things being eaten.

What I think? I think we shouldn't judge a product until it is finished :I

*reads*


.......AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......

Just tyrannosaurus, velociraptor, snake and cuttlefish? Wh not adding pterosaur, pistol shrimp and water bear to the mix, so they can have a flexible-jawed, camouflaging, smart flying creature with a sonic weapon that can survive in space? Amateurs.

I am still surprised they didn't add cannons! Kids like Pokemon, right? Get this thing look like a blastoids and they'd make a fortune. Surely the giant cannons on it's back could never bring about anything bad! Just like I'm sure giving it the ability to swallow people whole and turn near invisible won't end up hurting anyone in the movie, either! No, making animals more dangerous and horrifying has never had a bad ending, as far as I know.

If it's one thing I've learned from contemporary children's cartoons, it's that explosions and sharp objects can't actually hurt you. Not so much as a scratch! Long falls might hurt a bit, but if that happens, I'm sure the kid'll be rescued by a friendly pterodactyl.

I think they had problems to extract cannon DNA. But they would have a handy replacement with fire breath, just modify bombardier beetle genes a bit. Or, since the logic went out to buy cigarettes and didn't return, make it radioactive fire breath, because making everything radioactive makes everything hundred times more awesome. And crank up the cuttle fish gene sequences, so it can have tentacles, for manipulation and, more importantly, to please the fetishists. And then, add planarian into the mix, so if someone blows them up, there will be hundreds of genetic abominations rather than just one.

They'd be better off making a Dino Squad movie. No-one expects plausible science from that, and it'd be nice to see what the writers could do without the BS&P people holding them back.

Uh. I'm going to assume/hope this is a joke of some sort.

I remember seeing a "leaked script" a long time ago that was something about trained, intelligent raptors being used in the drug war... or something.

If this is true though... jeez how far we have fallen since the timeless classic that was the original.

I still cant complain about more dinosaurs either way.

I don't know... Maybe they're going with the thought of "we killed the franchise with JP3, lets make a movie that people are going to see because they're sure it's going to be bad, and are hoping it'll be 'so bad it's good'"

Man this idea sound so fucking stupid. BUT, if I may play devil's advocate:

there is a way for this to work, and that's if inGen is no longer behind Jurassic Park and it's now being run by BioSyn (the rival company from the books that hired Dennis Nedry to steal dinosaur embryos in the first movie for those who haven't read them) and if this is a gross oversimplification of the actual plot. Trained dinosaurs could easily just mean "more controlled than in the previous movies" and not, like, "trained the way the soldier raptors in the original 4th script were". The hybrid super-predator could be a dinosaur that isn't being developed for use in the park but for other purposes such as a cliche but still useable origin as some sort of attempt to get into military contracting. Or it could just be someone involved in the movie talking about Carnotaurus if Carnotaurus is featured in the movie the way it was in the second book where it naturally had cuttlefish-like adaptive camouflage and they just made up the name Diabolus Rex on the spot because it sounded like the name a dinosaur that could be described as looking demonic would have.

I'd say let's wait for a trailer before assuming any of this is ACTUALLY verified and not another one of the countless cases of rumor being passed off as verified.

Honestly? Part of me hopes all this horrible info we got turns out to be true. The third movie has convinced me that it's impossible for a good JP movie to be made now, so might as well ride the flaming train into 'so bad it might be good' realm.

That's a really good point

well it would be nice to see some anti-science anti-buisness group be the villains for a change instead of the misunderstood heroes. Watching lost world the environmentalist are the ones that fucked everything up. But yeah needlessly splicing together a bunch of dinos together does not make any sense to me at all. Why not give it chainsaw arms and a Gatling gun tail while you're at it.

Doubtful, Jurassic Park's always shabbily tried to present the prospect of espousing cutting edge science and capitalism as some inevitable recipe for disaster (because consumer products are a terrible thing, a-hyuk). Everything after the first was just milking the franchise, kind of like Hollywood keeps doing with children's nursery rhymes and stories (seriously, apparently Oz truly has the deepest lore and the Grimms' stories were actually truncated rehashings of their fantastic adventures, amirite). Besides, the is about par for something like a collaborative effort from Reddit, if anything. I'm just waiting for them to publish a more articulate synopsis that doesn't read like some bad, furry porn comic.

Funny thing, this is the original plot to JP3.