Latest pistol brace talk
11 years ago
So as many of you know, there are aftermarket arm braces for AK and AR pistols.
These braces are made to strap to your arm and give you more control over the firearm.
However, after an open letter to the ATF, the ATF said that shouldering the brace, like a makeshift stock, does not violate any laws.
After this, the market for the braces exploded.
While it is not as good as a stock, many find it alright for a pseudo stock.
Wellllll...
Last week, someone wrote an open letter to the ATF, (an personally, I think this guy is an asshat for asking this) asking if they could build an SBR (Short Barreled Rifle) and use a brace for a stock.
The ATF changed their mind and said that now shouldering the braces are wrong.
First off, why the hell would you ask a question like that? What good did you think would come of it?
And second, did the ATF just tell us how not to HOLD our firearms?
So what many peeps boil it down to in a nutshell, (and you know the ATF hasn't given a straight answer, yet), is that it is perfectly ok to shoot it on your arm, but if you move the firearm a few inches upwards and back, to your shoulder, you have committed a crime.
I think the whole SBR and pistol ARs and AKs ruling is bullshit to begin with, so their new talk of telling us how not to hold our firearms is major bullshit.
Imma kinda split off a lil bit here to talk about somethin along the lines of this.
While watching a recent video posted by Gunwebsites on youtube, he talked with ATF representatives at SHOT Show, last week, and talked to them about the new brace ruling. He held a livestream to discuss it, and in the video, he said the ATF reps told him that if he had a question, he had to write or send an email to their office (guess they gotta have paper copies). In this part, he said that the rep he was talking to said that many people would send videos of people on youtube shouldering the braces and asking or TELLING that they were doing it wrong.
-WARNING: mature language incoming-
Ok, so pretty much, some 'politically correct' asswipes that call themselves gun owners were narking on other law abiding gun owners for something that they perceive as wrong. They were pretty much running to Big Daddy ATF and saying 'ooh ooh, look, he's doing something wrong!'
They were doing nothing wrong, and I have no qualms against those who legitimately sent the videos asking if that position was ok, but for those who sent them in to tattle-tale on others for doing nothing wrong, I say FUCK YOU! Is our gun community not 'correct' or 'proper' enough' for your little stuck up shit head? Fuck, you remind me of the skeet shooting and tactical cliques.
-tangent over-
So anyways, what do you think of the recent brace ruling.
If you have the time and the interest, I highly suggest watching Gunwebsites livestream video of discussing it.
These braces are made to strap to your arm and give you more control over the firearm.
However, after an open letter to the ATF, the ATF said that shouldering the brace, like a makeshift stock, does not violate any laws.
After this, the market for the braces exploded.
While it is not as good as a stock, many find it alright for a pseudo stock.
Wellllll...
Last week, someone wrote an open letter to the ATF, (an personally, I think this guy is an asshat for asking this) asking if they could build an SBR (Short Barreled Rifle) and use a brace for a stock.
The ATF changed their mind and said that now shouldering the braces are wrong.
First off, why the hell would you ask a question like that? What good did you think would come of it?
And second, did the ATF just tell us how not to HOLD our firearms?
So what many peeps boil it down to in a nutshell, (and you know the ATF hasn't given a straight answer, yet), is that it is perfectly ok to shoot it on your arm, but if you move the firearm a few inches upwards and back, to your shoulder, you have committed a crime.
I think the whole SBR and pistol ARs and AKs ruling is bullshit to begin with, so their new talk of telling us how not to hold our firearms is major bullshit.
Imma kinda split off a lil bit here to talk about somethin along the lines of this.
While watching a recent video posted by Gunwebsites on youtube, he talked with ATF representatives at SHOT Show, last week, and talked to them about the new brace ruling. He held a livestream to discuss it, and in the video, he said the ATF reps told him that if he had a question, he had to write or send an email to their office (guess they gotta have paper copies). In this part, he said that the rep he was talking to said that many people would send videos of people on youtube shouldering the braces and asking or TELLING that they were doing it wrong.
-WARNING: mature language incoming-
Ok, so pretty much, some 'politically correct' asswipes that call themselves gun owners were narking on other law abiding gun owners for something that they perceive as wrong. They were pretty much running to Big Daddy ATF and saying 'ooh ooh, look, he's doing something wrong!'
They were doing nothing wrong, and I have no qualms against those who legitimately sent the videos asking if that position was ok, but for those who sent them in to tattle-tale on others for doing nothing wrong, I say FUCK YOU! Is our gun community not 'correct' or 'proper' enough' for your little stuck up shit head? Fuck, you remind me of the skeet shooting and tactical cliques.
-tangent over-
So anyways, what do you think of the recent brace ruling.
If you have the time and the interest, I highly suggest watching Gunwebsites livestream video of discussing it.
GaleSmilax
~galesmilax
i think it's ridiculous and un-inforcable
straycat_74
~straycat74
more laws only make more criminals... and criminals do not obey the law in the first place.
Brombear
~brombear
There are two problems I have with this; 1. People who don't know what the laws are and are just begging for the ATF to do something we'll all regret (We have had people show up to trade stuff they shouldn't have "built"), and 2, the ATF in of itself, backpeddling and re-interpreting the laws and definitions (Search David Olafson).
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