My thouhts on those who avoid taking an interest in Politics
9 years ago
Being taught to avoid talking about Politics and Religion has led to a lack of understanding of Politics and Religion. What we should have been taught was how to have a civil conversation about a difficult topic.
I found this quote from Bertolt Brect, and I whole heartedly agree with it.
“The worst illiterate is the political illiterate, he doesn’t hear, doesn’t speak, nor participates in the political events. He doesn’t know the cost of life, the price of the bean, of the fish, of the flour, of the rent, of the shoes and of the medicine, all depends on political decisions. The political illiterate is so stupid that he is proud and swells his chest saying that he hates politics. The imbecile doesn’t know that, from his political ignorance is born the prostitute, the abandoned child, and the worst thieves of all, the bad politician, corrupted and flunky of the national and multinational companies.”
If you will not vote, you are handing your influence to the most loathsome people you can imagine, because they are getting out there and voting. Plato said the intelligent are punished for not taking an interest in governance by being governed by their inferiors. Australia puts a $5 fine on those who will not do their civic duty and vote. should we do that here? Should we always believe in Good Government and ignore Paul Weyrich? https://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB.....;v=8GBAsFwPglw
what could happen good and bad if we did that here? There are some who say that Election Day should be a national holiday so that all those who work can go to the polls that day. I like the idea. I don't like the Voter ID laws that have prevented seniors who cannot present birth certificates to get ID to then vote.
The Republican party has pushed this because they know that those who are not likely to have the credential are not likely to vote for them. they see voter id laws as a win-win. the poor old person who voted all their lives does not see it that way. I have some watchers. what do you think?
“The worst illiterate is the political illiterate, he doesn’t hear, doesn’t speak, nor participates in the political events. He doesn’t know the cost of life, the price of the bean, of the fish, of the flour, of the rent, of the shoes and of the medicine, all depends on political decisions. The political illiterate is so stupid that he is proud and swells his chest saying that he hates politics. The imbecile doesn’t know that, from his political ignorance is born the prostitute, the abandoned child, and the worst thieves of all, the bad politician, corrupted and flunky of the national and multinational companies.”
If you will not vote, you are handing your influence to the most loathsome people you can imagine, because they are getting out there and voting. Plato said the intelligent are punished for not taking an interest in governance by being governed by their inferiors. Australia puts a $5 fine on those who will not do their civic duty and vote. should we do that here? Should we always believe in Good Government and ignore Paul Weyrich? https://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB.....;v=8GBAsFwPglw
what could happen good and bad if we did that here? There are some who say that Election Day should be a national holiday so that all those who work can go to the polls that day. I like the idea. I don't like the Voter ID laws that have prevented seniors who cannot present birth certificates to get ID to then vote.
The Republican party has pushed this because they know that those who are not likely to have the credential are not likely to vote for them. they see voter id laws as a win-win. the poor old person who voted all their lives does not see it that way. I have some watchers. what do you think?
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Pretty much sums up my thoughts on it.
BTW, since the elderly tend to lean Republican, I rather doubt that a voter ID law pushed by the right could possibly have been intended to disenfranchise them... occasional implementation glitches don't change the basic idea that you don't want noncitizens voting, nor do you want cheats voting more than once.
And don't get me started on electronic voting machines that don't have a hardcopy trail.
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/03/.....-test-in-ohio/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/.....ated-WWII-vet-
http://billmoyers.com/2014/09/25/an.....ps-war-voting/
so "because 'our family has -always- voted for them!" is a valid reason for me to vote like my parents?
There were cases of electronic vote flipping. both sides. yes. needs paper trail or at least a receipt to show you voted the way you did.
Our family has always voted X is their excuse for voting without knowing a damn thing about the candidates. What -really- drives me nuts is that they refuse to learn about the issues because 'one or two votes doesn't matter anyway'. And yet they always vote...
We can agree that electronic voting is open to chicanery, particularly when the voting machines use standard buggy software instead of secure purpose-designed programs. Ideally voting would have a unique OS and be treated as equivalent to the Nuclear Codes for security. But that assumes that the incumbents actually want honest voting. I've not seen a lot of evidence that that is the case (from either major party, mind you.)