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This Fandom is Starting to Worry Me...
7 years ago
I've been somewhat distant from this site and to a fair extent this fandom as a whole recently.
I've seen some of my friends' Twitters and seen the sort of things that are going around the fandom and I really wonder what the fuck has happened.
About 10 years ago I started to actively participate, and things were pretty cool. Sure you had the social outcasts and the oddball here and there, but in general everything was pretty accepting towards others.
But now?
You disagree with someone or agree with someone else on apparently anything and you get thrown out to the wolves (no pun intended).
I think the latest is all of this "erhmahgerd nazifurz" garbage that's been going on for, well basically since 2016 or so, but it's really coming out in force now.
Seriously though, what is a "Nazi"?
It's actually quite defined: "a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party". If you are a member of or supporter of the the Third Reich, you are literally a Nazi.
So when people are talking about "nazis" now, and these "nazi furs", I'm assuming that they are talking about the furries who like to run around getting their rocks off to Hugo Boss uniforms, swastika's, armbands, and exterminating what they consider lesser people.
Apparently that's not the case though. It seems like it's become a catch all term for pretty much anything. Just like "fascist" or the ever expanding "Alt-Right".
Let's talk about the Alt-Right because they are somewhat well defined as well. White supremacists, neo-Nazi's, neo-fascists, hate groups, etc are all things that actually fall under this umbrella term.
To quote the Associated Press (AP):
"The 'alt-right' or 'alternative right' is a name currently embraced by some white supremacists and white nationalists to refer to themselves and their ideology, which emphasizes preserving and protecting the white race in the United States in addition to, or over, other traditional conservative positions such as limited government, low taxes and strict law-and-order. The movement has been described as a mix of racism, white nationalism and populism [...] criticizes "multiculturalism" and more rights for non-whites, women, Jews, Muslims, gays, immigrants and other minorities. Its members reject the American democratic ideal that all should have equality under the law regardless of creed, gender, ethnic origin or race."
That's actually pretty specific, although the main thing to take away from it is the hate group part of it.
This fandom seems to be recently turning into something of a McCarthy-istic clusterfuck. I'm seeing this current cycle of witch hunts and calls in incite violence.
Why? Because so and so is clearly a fascist or a nazi or a snowflake or a "libertard" or whatever. Yes, it certainly goes both ways, but I see a lot more of it coming from the left side of things.
Quite frankly, in my opinion, both extremes are shit and should feel bad and we'd all be better if they didn't exists.
But as I said, it's the left side that I see more of this garbage from as of late.
Apparently there is a list of purportedly "alt-right furries" on Twitter that you can use to automatically block people.
You can auto-block people who might be racist or something? Ok. I can see that. I don't want racism or a bunch of actual Nazi's going around on my Twitter.
But no.
That's not what it is at all. It's a list that seems to be spiraling out of control and has little to know solid footing on who is the big scary bad guy who needs to be blocked.
It's a bunch of fear mongering and mob mentality (and we'll touch on this a bit later).
Seriously. I actually know some of the people on that list. Like, actually know them. Not "Oh I hear through so-and-so" or "Well Jimmy said that" or "Oh, Someone tweeted about..." Actually know them.
And of the people I do know, they are normal, sensible people.... well as normal and sensible as furries can be, am I right? The only thing I can think of that might land them on some sort of scary list is that some of them are on the conservative side of the political spectrum.
"Ah-ha!" I can hear people say. "I KNEW IT! THEY ARE FASCISTS! NAZIS! ALT-RIGHT!"
Uh. No.
You see, and this may be hard for some people to believe, but people can have conservative views and not be a white supremacist. They can be conservative and not be against gay rights or be homophobic (especially if they are gay themselves, which some of my friends are).
"BUT! MUH NAZIS!"
This is what I am really coming to despise. Just because two people agree on one thing doesn't mean they agree on everything.
Just because the actual Alt-Right might have conservative values, doesn't mean that anyone with conservative values is automatically a member of the Alt-Right. Just because someone has liberal views doesn't automatically mean they are a member of Antifa, or rather, whatever the organization that calls themselves Antifa is. Just because someone likes one thing Trump did/said he'd do doesn't mean they are a 100% Trump supporter. Just because someone liked something Bernie Sanders said he'd do doesn't mean they are a socialist.
Interesting how it works both ways. Plus, just because people disagree on something doesn't mean they disagree on everything.
Why is this so hard to grasp?
Then you get the loud-mouthed "Popufurs" who like to lead these little witch hunts.
This is honestly what sparked my drive to do this journal. On top of the usual suspects telling their followers to go punch people in the face if they don't agree with them 100% or to burn fursuits, or dox people or try to publicly shame people or commit other crimes (yes, assault is a crime under the law, no matter how not nice you think the other person is), the little ribbon thing that apparently happened at Anthrocon has started a whole new thing of, well to be honest, stupid.
There is one tweet that I saw that was literally saying that if you have to ask questions about if you are considered a member of the Alt-Right or a Nazi fur, you're clearly a nazi fur or a member of the Alt Right.
Seriously? So with all of these changing, amorphous definitions that are flying around the internet, you are guilty if you ask a question?
I'm seeing a pattern here.
People being told who to block without knowing the accused?
Punished for asking questions?
Punished for not agreeing with the popular people?
This is either something out of a cliche high school drama, some novel against fascism, or... wait, didn't actual dictators and fascists do this?
I'm pretty sure they did.
It seems like it's not to far from "If you disagree with us or are of a certain group, go directly to the ghetto/camps/gulag/etc."
But then people will assure me that this is all completely different. They just want the bad people to "fuck off".
Who decides who are the bad people?
If it were me, a "Nazi fur" would be those people who run around with with the swastika arm bands, the Third Reich symbols, the Parteiadler, pairs of siegrune, or the insignia of the SS-Totenkopfverbände. You know. Literal Nazi Furs.
It's amazing how they try to defend themselves. I commented on some art where the character was displaying the SS-Totenkopfverbände insignia and said that the Nazi symbolism was ruining the otherwise nice artwork. They tried to tell me it was fine because there were no swastika's. Amazing how ignorate, dense, or stupid some poeple are to think that the swastika is the only Nazi symbol and that the death's head from the camps is totally cool, but I digress. It's like the people who cry "Nah bro, I just like the uniform". Cool story. If you want to jack off to Hugo Boss, you can do it without the logos. But again, I digress.
You see, I'm not fond of actual Nazi Furs.
Literal Nazi Furs.
Jump back up the definition. Nazi + Fur = Nazi Fur.
Back on track though.
So it seems many people in the fandom are content to be told who is bad based on things they may or may not have done and that these bad people should besent away on trains discouraged from participating in the fandom.
People with "power" telling other people which groups of people are bad and that they need to be removed from the fandom. We literally have people going on about how they are against hate... by telling people to hate other groups. Does that seem backwards to you? Because it really should.
I mean, that does sound a bit like Hitler to me. Or Stalin. Or McCarthy.
__________ said that __________ are a problem for __________ and should be __________.:
A: <Insert Popufur Here>; "nazi furs" and "the Alt-Right"; "The furry fandom"; "told to fuck off";
B: Someone Popular on Twitter; "the Alt-Right"; America; dealt with through violence
C: Over dramatic / Sensitive Person; Anyone who disagrees with me and is therefore a fascist; Everyone; dealt with through violence or mean posts on social media.
D: Hitler; Jews/Homosexuals/Gypsys/Non-White's; the Third Reich's beautiful Fatherland; sent to the camps and exterminated in The Final Solution.
E: Stalin; anyone who might be a fascist or anti-Capitalist; Communism and the glorious Motherland; sent to the gulags or just executed.
F: Joseph McCarthy; any of these potential Communists; the Republic of America we all know and love; blacklisted and have their careers and lives basically ruined.
Do you see the pattern here? If you don't, I'm a bit worried. Because some of those examples are real things that happened when a bunch of people just started believing in things and building up a mob mentality.
People need to stop and realize that not everyone agrees with each other, and that is perfectly ok. We don't have to agree with each other. All that is needed is basic decency, something that should be common.
Instead of getting pissy or going on some sort of crusade or witch hunt or Great Purge over social media or FA or whatever, just deal with it. Walk away.
Now obviously this is different for actual hate crimes.
Have you ever been a victim of an actual hate crime? I have. It's not fun. 0/10 would not recommend.
And if you are, you know what you do? After getting the authorities involved and all that, you move on. Remember that what happened was a result of an individual, not the entire group.
It's not like the Fandom already has to deal with that non-stop, right? You know. Convincing people that the fandom is pretty ok whenever there's some crazy news story about "those fucking furries" doing bat shit crazy things.
Ok. I think I'm done ranting and rambling now. Maybe something good will come of this use of my time.
Now that that's over with, I want to ask:
-What do you think of all of this?
-Did I make you think?
-Did I say something you disagree with?
If so, comment! Let's start a discussion! See what we can accomplish when we actually talk instead of just bitching and witch hunts.
Also, for those of you who are used to my journals being nothing but posting when there is more art inbound, I'm sorry to disappoint. Don't worry, there is more on the way. I've just been too distanced from this fandom and its mess to feel like posting any.
Sincerely,
-Tsume
I'm not going to mince words: this fandom is starting to worry me. To disappoint me.
I've seen some of my friends' Twitters and seen the sort of things that are going around the fandom and I really wonder what the fuck has happened.
About 10 years ago I started to actively participate, and things were pretty cool. Sure you had the social outcasts and the oddball here and there, but in general everything was pretty accepting towards others.
But now?
You disagree with someone or agree with someone else on apparently anything and you get thrown out to the wolves (no pun intended).
I think the latest is all of this "erhmahgerd nazifurz" garbage that's been going on for, well basically since 2016 or so, but it's really coming out in force now.
Seriously though, what is a "Nazi"?
It's actually quite defined: "a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party". If you are a member of or supporter of the the Third Reich, you are literally a Nazi.
So when people are talking about "nazis" now, and these "nazi furs", I'm assuming that they are talking about the furries who like to run around getting their rocks off to Hugo Boss uniforms, swastika's, armbands, and exterminating what they consider lesser people.
Apparently that's not the case though. It seems like it's become a catch all term for pretty much anything. Just like "fascist" or the ever expanding "Alt-Right".
Let's talk about the Alt-Right because they are somewhat well defined as well. White supremacists, neo-Nazi's, neo-fascists, hate groups, etc are all things that actually fall under this umbrella term.
To quote the Associated Press (AP):
"The 'alt-right' or 'alternative right' is a name currently embraced by some white supremacists and white nationalists to refer to themselves and their ideology, which emphasizes preserving and protecting the white race in the United States in addition to, or over, other traditional conservative positions such as limited government, low taxes and strict law-and-order. The movement has been described as a mix of racism, white nationalism and populism [...] criticizes "multiculturalism" and more rights for non-whites, women, Jews, Muslims, gays, immigrants and other minorities. Its members reject the American democratic ideal that all should have equality under the law regardless of creed, gender, ethnic origin or race."
That's actually pretty specific, although the main thing to take away from it is the hate group part of it.
This fandom seems to be recently turning into something of a McCarthy-istic clusterfuck. I'm seeing this current cycle of witch hunts and calls in incite violence.
Why? Because so and so is clearly a fascist or a nazi or a snowflake or a "libertard" or whatever. Yes, it certainly goes both ways, but I see a lot more of it coming from the left side of things.
Quite frankly, in my opinion, both extremes are shit and should feel bad and we'd all be better if they didn't exists.
But as I said, it's the left side that I see more of this garbage from as of late.
Let's get a bit more specific.
Apparently there is a list of purportedly "alt-right furries" on Twitter that you can use to automatically block people.
You can auto-block people who might be racist or something? Ok. I can see that. I don't want racism or a bunch of actual Nazi's going around on my Twitter.
But no.
That's not what it is at all. It's a list that seems to be spiraling out of control and has little to know solid footing on who is the big scary bad guy who needs to be blocked.
It's a bunch of fear mongering and mob mentality (and we'll touch on this a bit later).
Seriously. I actually know some of the people on that list. Like, actually know them. Not "Oh I hear through so-and-so" or "Well Jimmy said that" or "Oh, Someone tweeted about..." Actually know them.
And of the people I do know, they are normal, sensible people.... well as normal and sensible as furries can be, am I right? The only thing I can think of that might land them on some sort of scary list is that some of them are on the conservative side of the political spectrum.
"Ah-ha!" I can hear people say. "I KNEW IT! THEY ARE FASCISTS! NAZIS! ALT-RIGHT!"
Uh. No.
You see, and this may be hard for some people to believe, but people can have conservative views and not be a white supremacist. They can be conservative and not be against gay rights or be homophobic (especially if they are gay themselves, which some of my friends are).
"BUT! MUH NAZIS!"
This is what I am really coming to despise. Just because two people agree on one thing doesn't mean they agree on everything.
Just because the actual Alt-Right might have conservative values, doesn't mean that anyone with conservative values is automatically a member of the Alt-Right. Just because someone has liberal views doesn't automatically mean they are a member of Antifa, or rather, whatever the organization that calls themselves Antifa is. Just because someone likes one thing Trump did/said he'd do doesn't mean they are a 100% Trump supporter. Just because someone liked something Bernie Sanders said he'd do doesn't mean they are a socialist.
Interesting how it works both ways. Plus, just because people disagree on something doesn't mean they disagree on everything.
Why is this so hard to grasp?
Then you get the loud-mouthed "Popufurs" who like to lead these little witch hunts.
This is honestly what sparked my drive to do this journal. On top of the usual suspects telling their followers to go punch people in the face if they don't agree with them 100% or to burn fursuits, or dox people or try to publicly shame people or commit other crimes (yes, assault is a crime under the law, no matter how not nice you think the other person is), the little ribbon thing that apparently happened at Anthrocon has started a whole new thing of, well to be honest, stupid.
There is one tweet that I saw that was literally saying that if you have to ask questions about if you are considered a member of the Alt-Right or a Nazi fur, you're clearly a nazi fur or a member of the Alt Right.
Seriously? So with all of these changing, amorphous definitions that are flying around the internet, you are guilty if you ask a question?
I'm seeing a pattern here.
People being told who to block without knowing the accused?
Punished for asking questions?
Punished for not agreeing with the popular people?
This is either something out of a cliche high school drama, some novel against fascism, or... wait, didn't actual dictators and fascists do this?
I'm pretty sure they did.
It seems like it's not to far from "If you disagree with us or are of a certain group, go directly to the ghetto/camps/gulag/etc."
But then people will assure me that this is all completely different. They just want the bad people to "fuck off".
Who decides who are the bad people?
If it were me, a "Nazi fur" would be those people who run around with with the swastika arm bands, the Third Reich symbols, the Parteiadler, pairs of siegrune, or the insignia of the SS-Totenkopfverbände. You know. Literal Nazi Furs.
It's amazing how they try to defend themselves. I commented on some art where the character was displaying the SS-Totenkopfverbände insignia and said that the Nazi symbolism was ruining the otherwise nice artwork. They tried to tell me it was fine because there were no swastika's. Amazing how ignorate, dense, or stupid some poeple are to think that the swastika is the only Nazi symbol and that the death's head from the camps is totally cool, but I digress. It's like the people who cry "Nah bro, I just like the uniform". Cool story. If you want to jack off to Hugo Boss, you can do it without the logos. But again, I digress.
You see, I'm not fond of actual Nazi Furs.
Literal Nazi Furs.
Jump back up the definition. Nazi + Fur = Nazi Fur.
Back on track though.
So it seems many people in the fandom are content to be told who is bad based on things they may or may not have done and that these bad people should be
People with "power" telling other people which groups of people are bad and that they need to be removed from the fandom. We literally have people going on about how they are against hate... by telling people to hate other groups. Does that seem backwards to you? Because it really should.
I mean, that does sound a bit like Hitler to me. Or Stalin. Or McCarthy.
To those of you who don't believe me, let's try one of those sweet Mad Libs. Who doesn't love filling in the blanks!
__________ said that __________ are a problem for __________ and should be __________.:
A: <Insert Popufur Here>; "nazi furs" and "the Alt-Right"; "The furry fandom"; "told to fuck off";
B: Someone Popular on Twitter; "the Alt-Right"; America; dealt with through violence
C: Over dramatic / Sensitive Person; Anyone who disagrees with me and is therefore a fascist; Everyone; dealt with through violence or mean posts on social media.
D: Hitler; Jews/Homosexuals/Gypsys/Non-White's; the Third Reich's beautiful Fatherland; sent to the camps and exterminated in The Final Solution.
E: Stalin; anyone who might be a fascist or anti-Capitalist; Communism and the glorious Motherland; sent to the gulags or just executed.
F: Joseph McCarthy; any of these potential Communists; the Republic of America we all know and love; blacklisted and have their careers and lives basically ruined.
Do you see the pattern here? If you don't, I'm a bit worried. Because some of those examples are real things that happened when a bunch of people just started believing in things and building up a mob mentality.
This is what is upsetting me about the fandom.
People need to stop and realize that not everyone agrees with each other, and that is perfectly ok. We don't have to agree with each other. All that is needed is basic decency, something that should be common.
Instead of getting pissy or going on some sort of crusade or witch hunt or Great Purge over social media or FA or whatever, just deal with it. Walk away.
Now obviously this is different for actual hate crimes.
Have you ever been a victim of an actual hate crime? I have. It's not fun. 0/10 would not recommend.
And if you are, you know what you do? After getting the authorities involved and all that, you move on. Remember that what happened was a result of an individual, not the entire group.
It's not like the Fandom already has to deal with that non-stop, right? You know. Convincing people that the fandom is pretty ok whenever there's some crazy news story about "those fucking furries" doing bat shit crazy things.
Ok. I think I'm done ranting and rambling now. Maybe something good will come of this use of my time.
If nothing else, please remember to think for yourself. Don't just follow what Person X or Person Y are saying in their journals / Facebook / Twitter / Whatever. Make your own decisions based on your own knowledge.
Now that that's over with, I want to ask:
-What do you think of all of this?
-Did I make you think?
-Did I say something you disagree with?
If so, comment! Let's start a discussion! See what we can accomplish when we actually talk instead of just bitching and witch hunts.
Also, for those of you who are used to my journals being nothing but posting when there is more art inbound, I'm sorry to disappoint. Don't worry, there is more on the way. I've just been too distanced from this fandom and its mess to feel like posting any.
Sincerely,
-Tsume
Still, I do believe that both groups have people who do not full support the other and who do not full support their ideals. Not all of them are good just as not all of them are bad. People are more complex than what most believe people. It won't do people any good if they demonize each other.
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment, but I do hope that your words bring enlightenment to those who are blinded by hate.
Off topic by the way: Not American, just so you know.
And you are absolutely right. Neither side nor group is 100% for or against each other. It just amazes me how easily people will just go in and blindly follow stuff.
Also, you don't have to be American at all to see this happening. Some of it just seems to stem from American stuff.
And yeah, it's just too easy to sling a label on someone you don't agree with, far easier than actually thinking and debating issues. There are too many pockets on the internet where any opinion can thrive, where people can go to have any belief reinforced without any challenge. How else do you think Flat-Earthers are still around? =p
I mean, I get that thinking is hard and takes energy, but if you don't think for yourself, what's the point of thinking at all!
Also, I don't know if that pun was intended, but... "Flat-earthers... stilll around". :v
And it depends, is it better or worse than the time the official Flat Earth twitter account announced they had members all around the globe? =p
Also, wow. That's impressive they'd miss that.
And since you seem interested: https://newhampshire.files.wordpres.....flat-earth.jpg
I also agree that social media basically gives every person a soap box and a megaphone for them to shout their opinions to everyone. Combine that with the trend of people not thinking for themselves or checking on what other people say and you just have a recipe for disaster.
Completely unrelated, but that sounds like a good name for brownies that have a whole bunch of stuff in them: "Disaster Brownies".
Throw in M&M's, pretzels, peanuts, other chunky candy pieces, idk.
Also, those just sound like basic brownies. If you want a real disaster go for like... Licorice Chunks and Reece's Pieces.
With Mint.
You do have a very valid point however. It's basically a higher concentration of the less wholesome (ok, that word might be a stretch) people.
Also, basic brownies for me are quite simple. I think they have about 5 ingredients and I know one of them is 3/4cup of cocoa powder. I get volun-told to make them quite often. :<
The problem is that the fandom is so "accepting" and willing to bring anyone in and apparently almost anything is accepted.
As soon as you were to argue that their bull shit is out of ordinary they would rely on their white knights to defend them. ESPECIALLY if they are indeed a popofur.
The issue isn't the small majority of imbeciles the fandom accepts, it's the fact we accept them in the first place.
To be more on point with your journal though, the whole nazi thing I feel like is one big troll session.
Sure, some of the shit the nazi's wore could have been stylish (for sake of argument, I say it looks like shit) but at the end of the day the swastika on it's own is a red flag and is worthy of mentioning and pointing out that it is in fact; not okay.
But again, all of that comes down to the whole "lets accept anyone into the fandom" thing.
Whether it's nazi shit, incredibly odd characters and fetishes or absolute borderline retards that think their obnoxious behavior is fine just because they're part of a thing.
It's so backwards. "LET'S ACCEPT EVERYONE! Except that group."
Also I think I've met one legit popufur who is a simple, reasonable dude who is chill. The rest I've met are like the popular kid in high school and super full of themselves.
That said, i don't go out of my way to meet many.
:<
On twitter two of my first real friends in furry blocked me on one of those lists, lists which expand every day with trans folk, at least one polish centrist (tell me a pole loves nazis, just try) and the like.
I don't dare try to appeal though, because I legit fear some 5 or 6 ywar old comment will be taken out of context, and they'll dox me or worse. I've personally hounded furry raiders out of libertarian chats they were tryi g to recruit from, but I'm the baddie.
We've butted heads over stupid shit before, I know that even if I can't remember what... But you're 100% spot on here... And that makes me afraid they'll muffle your voice next.
As for Twitter, drama is one of the two reasons that the Twitter that matches this account doesn't get used. Drama and me being too lazy to actively use one account, let alone two.
And yes, we haven't agreed on things. But like reasonable people, we can still be friends and talk to each other. That's something that shouldn't really be that rare.
But it also calcifies opinion and makes people disbelieve accusations. You see stuff tossed all over the place and start getting the belief that accusations are thrown around solely to try and gain a bandwagon, to be the one that got rid of that 'toxic' person. So People start disbelieving them and even if it is true, the allegation is thrown onto the pile of 'bandwagon' and people automatically dismiss it.
I'll admit this is not the first experience I've had with it in fandom (after the tenth or twentieth time being told I should be shot you lose count) but definitely the most widespread.
Best advice I can give is to just try and talk to those who disagree with you on an individual level instead of trying to talk any sense to a mob. Now if you excuse me I'm going to continue enjoying guns, cocks and capitalism.
I've been aware of this whole thing in the greater political and social spheres since around 2014. So much shit happening all at once these days that it's hard to tell what's connected and what isn't.
The witch-hunt shit is gross. And it comes in large portion from the far leftists. And unfortunately, many are the furries who, in their naive gullible pursuit of "always being tolerant", have bought wholesale into a narrative where they're now in a mob mentality and have convinced themselves that whatever they do against "The Nazis" or "the alt right" or whatever is justified because of bullshit validations like "hate speech is violence" (it isn't, and it isn't), and of course they have all eagerly volunteered to be the arbiters of what is and is not hate speech, what a nazi is, what the alt-right is, what gender is, what racism is, what sexism is, all this shit; redefining words to try to begin shaping the world in the way they wish to see it...no matter how many bodies they crush underfoot in the pursuit of "being inclusive" and "removing hatred" and all that other dog shit, where lies and accusations and...you know what, you basically nailed it, it's like McCarthyism. I'd say that more than Stalinism, in fact, because this isn't a matter of life and death, but being associated with the furry "alt-right/nazifur" witch-hunt and having the hunters pointing their fingers at you is all it takes to completely destroy everything you've worked to achieve in the fandom, because once that finger of accusation is pointed, the mob won't even wait to hear the verdict before they proclaim their own, unflinchingly, and with no hope of them ever realizing you ARE innocent, because they're zealots now. Zealots aren't interested in hearing you out, they're interested only in asserting their own view over others. Nazis are bad, and these people are nazis because Person X said so and why would they lie, right? So, all they need to do is point, and your social life in the fandom is dead.
In summary, the situation is one of complete and absolute hysteria. You have popufurs like Leilani defending and supporting the domestic communist terrorist group Antifa and trying to convince all her fans that Antifa isn't ALL violent, most of them aren't! ...Except every time Antifa shows up, violence breaks out, and they are always the instigators (but then she's an op-ed writer for the most raggy of rags, the Huffington Post, so...feh, her almost valley-girl-esque ditziness in regards to the matter is to be expected. But people like her are helping urge along the hate mobs, and innocents are getting attacked way, WAY more often than "actual neonazis or nazifurs whatever.
And what amazes me is that the these morality crusaders don't seem to realize that these people that they are trying to go after are usually just shitposting their Nazi shit, or they just don't really care about the social context of the Nazis and are just fascinated by the Nazis' military and how it functioned, which is legit; they did basically take over almost all of Europe for a couple years there. In other words, they're in all likelihood not racists or anti-semites or whatever.
But even if they are, who gives a fuck? People like that have always existed, the KKK is still around after all... But the KKK comprises less than a thousandth of a percentage of the population. These loons all freaking out about fascists are off their fucking rocker. Trump Derangement Syndrome we call it in the communities I'm more active in nowadays. The fact these people genuinely think that fascism will ever rise in the US is just insane, to say nothing of them believing that we're in immediate danger of a fascist takeover.
Unfortunately, the fur-fandom was easy prey. It's full to bursting with, and you'll have to pardon me for being frank and candid here, spineless soft-skinned weaklings. I don't necessarily mean in body, either, I mean in their self-esteem, ego, senses of security. The reasons why don't matter to me; this fandom is chock-full of people who are emotionally more fragile than a faberge egg, to the point you end up feeling like you're walking on eggshells around them because you're never sure if you're gonna say something that's going to make them throw a bitchfit and run to the admins for an edgy joke.
That's another thing, too, this fandom has absolutely no sense of humor anymore, it has to be super safe and sanitized, like a children's TV program because of the way people react nowadays.
This fandom just isn't fun anymore. It's just obnoxious, full of moralizing mental head cases (to be fair, I'm most definitely a head case as well) who are Martyrs for the Greater Good just waiting for the chance, and when the midterms this year go shit-shaped for the leftists (I'm a liberal myself, an ACTUAL liberal; you'll never catch me dead reporting anyone for anything, even directly attacking me), and mark my words the "blue wave" is going to crash far short of the shore, they're all going to double down and go absolutely apeshit because to them, everything Trump and his supporters say is a dog whistle for racism and sexism and wahwahwahcricricripeoplearesoooomeeeean, so they'll probably take it as confirmation that the fascist takeover is truly under way, and that's when things will get bloody.
I think I'll just kick up a chair, sit back, and watch from the sidelines as this fandom tears itself to shreds like the Steven Universe one has.
It doesn't matter.
None'a this matters.
A few points of this are extra funny, so to speak.
1. Considering Huffington Post any sort of actual news source is to insult pretty much every other news agency.
2. Bias and sensationalism are probably two of the biggest problems with the various news outlets today.
3. The emotional fragility is a very good point. It's like they need someone to anchor to and tell them how to think, which is really quite sad.
4. Antifa has reached a new level of special now that they've had a recent streak of just going right after the reporters themselves.
5. It's sad that non-related symbols are getting roped into this shit. I saw a Tweet about someone making buttons. One was "Antifa Furs Fuck Off", another was "Make Furries Great Again", and the last one was simply the Gadsden flag. The response to this was along the lines of "Great. identify yourselves as idiots/bigots/etc" and "Cool, if you wear these i know who not to do business with."
Wasn't the MAGA thing just made into a meme for the sake of a meme slogan?
Antifa Furs? Well if they are anything like the violent and aggressive Antifa we see "protesting", I'd want them to fuck right off too. Same with actual Nazi furs, but that's because I think if you are dumb enough to try and wear a full-on SS uniform you should fuck right off. Or ruin otherwise good art with that crap. :/
The Gasden flag? I love how so few people seem to what's behind it and it's now just become some stupid "Yeah! Don't fuck with us!" symbol. Even then, it has no political leanings, so I fail to see how it can signify someone as one side or the other.
Also, between the time I posted this and your response, there's also been the Popufur-led "crusade" against MFF because people can't read contracts before signing them. That's a whole 'nother pile of shit I had to try to explain to someone who just wanted to try and be seen as some kind of crusading hero. (TL;DR: They didn't want to hear any of how they were wrong and just starting drama).
Anyway, I'm off to bed for now! I hope things don't burn to the ground.