Yeah I've noticed People have been taking sidez with Stuff....

I'm not sure how it all works since I tend to mock all sides if I think it's entertaining, but I've never picked a side and noticed that both sides tend to try sparking up arguments too often. I'm more against people taking any rights away, even back during the Prop 8 shit where they wanted to ban what they called same sex marriage, because they were afraid to offend anyone, but now that it's legal we call it gay marriage no problem. I joked around about how it brings equality to spousal abuse, but I also heavily defended gay marriage because I'm against people taking away rights from anyone.

One argument I got with someone who assumed things about me got entertaining, he called me every gay slur possible because I was defending gay rights. I'm a straight dude, but I decided to play along with his shit and told him how we should revert back to white only drinking fountains, tell women not to vote, put me and the rest of the dark people in happy camps then basically devolve to the stone age and stone people to death if they tried inventing anything remotely wheel-like. Then he tried a rant about how I pulled my race card on him, making him sound racist until I asked if he could describe his wife's areolas in the format of a haiku, later on saying he's discriminating Japanese culture and should be ashamed of himself.

The point that made everyone laugh was I tried to contradict myself throughout our entire argument, but he didn't want to hear it and was obviously looking for an argument, and it made him foolish in the process. Then I ended up defending him against all of my points, but in the end I told him he made himself stupid by assuming anything about me, and resorting to any slurs is childish. I basically pulled some "duck season, rabbit season, rabbit season, duck season" on him, and his anger got the best of him.

Truthfully, I only argue with people who are being dicks about things, there's a big difference between a discussion and someone trying to push their views on others for the sake of getting into a heated debate. I enjoy those conversations because I think we all educate each other, and I personally think being passionate with some subjects isn't a bad thing. With what you said is similar to how I think about it, you're respectful and didn't feel comfortable around people who have a biased view.

Well I guess you already know I don't know shit about politics, I just know that when I asked people who they voted for they often told me it was none of my business, yet they love discussing politics often. I only voted yes on legalizing weed, which I don't even smoke weed, and I voted for the death penalty because there's obvious people who were convicted of fucked up crimes who are wasting resources for other criminals who should be locked up. The irony of it all is I fully support those who vote for things, regardless if I agree with them, I like the idea we live somewhere where we're not forced to do anything against our will.

Plus most of my discussions are about comic book stuff, video games, movies, music and various fun stuff. I don't really get dragged into most debates, I'd rather get drunk and watch Tom & Jerry cartoons. Even with music we've never had any arguments and often would recommend other bands or give critique, I'm far from perfect and never claim to have all the answers, my socks don't even match half the time so who the fuck am I to tell anyone how to think or what to do.

I read this whole thing and appreciate the support. I am actually kinda shocked at the amount of people that have supported me in this, I was expected to be burned at the stake.

IMO, the thing that separates some conversations that we are having now vs conversations I have had in the past is that "political" conversations now tend to be less about policy and more about people. In that, many have taken sides that dehumanizing or are actively harmful people and that in my opinion is less of a disagreement in politics and more of a disagreement abut whether to keep or abandon ethics. I think that the natural stance and only one worth having in these situations is that we must be ethical with our actions and accountable for our behavior and speech.

I love getting high and watching cartoons. I love making jokes and cuddling, listening to jams and doing everything that makes life with friends worth living, but it's hard to enjoy those things with people that would hurt others of make their basic humanity a subject of "debate."

These last few years have been hard to navigate in terms of groups, friends and this community and after watching a number of people close to me get swallowed by the alt right, the choices I need to make for myself have become much clearer.

I need to be around people who are good for me, and that is what I want out of life right now.

Yeah u Gotta remove the Negativity....

I'm not even sure what alt-right even means these days, but I hear what you mean. I even found myself trying to change the subject and someone will chime in calling me a liberal, conservative or whatever just because I'm avoiding conflict. I don't join chats to argue with people, half the time I'm asking how someone's day went or whatever.

I had people judge me based on how much I loved George Carlin, it's like chill out Carlin died years ago. I go in there to have good conversations with friends, maybe joke around and we all make each other laugh. The last remotely political discussion I had was when my mom told me she got Jerry Brown to sign his autobiography and mentioned a part where he smoked weed with Linda Ronstadt.

To be fair, I do enjoy some discussions I'm not interested in because to a degree it can be educational. I like to put myself in their shoes to try and understand where they're coming from and to know what topics might bother them. Sometimes it sucks when people can't enjoy being around each other and having a good time.

When I was in high school I would have loved this technology, to get home and turn on your phone or computer and have a group of people all over in different time zones just to talk about whatever we wanted to. I have friends who will ask if I wanna watch a movie with them, like some shit off YouTube or whatever website and it's like we're in the same room watching it. Even if the movie sucked or one of us passed out drunk or some shit, it's still fun to do.