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How to Spot AI Bullshit "Music"
5 months ago
So on top of accounts that are uploading other people's creations, I also see that we are now dealing with AI generated music.
In one case, I found someone that was using lyrics from Dutch pop songs as prompts and generating alternate AI versions of those same songs.
There are a few things I have noticed that these accounts have in common:
1: The stuff they upload sounds exceedingly polished and very generic. Like if the most bland shit imaginable was produced by amazing sound engineers. I'm not saying that furries can't also produce some really polished recordings, but its something to be suspicious of when the timing, vocal pitches, instrumentation is all absolutely fucking perfect. Even the greatest recordings will have some flaws.
2: There are never any credits. You hear what sounds like a vocalist, some guitar players, synth, drums etc and you never see any musicians credited with doing those parts. If someone is doing ALL that themselves and doing it absolutely perfectly, they would have better things to do than upload to FA. If someone is in a band, they will credit their bandmates or collab partners. If on the other hand, something is AI, the user is likely to be extremely reluctant to talk about who did what, because rather than having something to nerd out about or brag about, they have something that on some level they are ashamed of or at least don't want to admit. Musicians won't shut up about their work. When someone doesn't even want to talk about it, something is up!
3: The profiles are generally pretty sparse. They won't include common info that musicians tend to add like what instruments they play, other places you can find their content, people they work with, other projects they are involved with. Musicians tend to like to talk about and boost their work and they also tend to be involved in a number of projects and interests they will mention. If you don't see any of that, something is likely up with the profile. Again, the recordings are going to sound like a LOT of effort went into them. Someone that puts that much time into their work is probably going to take a least a little time setting up a reasonably fleshed out profile.
4: The uploads are frequent. If you have someone posting simple guitar/vocal recordings every other day, thats one thing but if someone is uploading a full on metal opera every day, sometimes multiple times a day, that shit is ABSOLUTELY fake. Complex recordings take days, weeks, months to throw together and produce. You cant release a Bohemian Rhapsody every single day, thats just not a pace a human being can keep up with.
5: No lyrics posted and the descriptions are very brief if they have any at all. Its not always a tell, a lot of people don't post their lyrics with their stuff, but it is a little suspicious if someone hits any of these other points and ALSO doesn't post the words they wrote. Sometimes AI users will in fact upload lyrics too, so again, not a perfect tell. What I will say that is if you are working on a recording that is really complex, chances are high you will take some time to detail what you have done in the description and that would likely include writing out the words to the song.
6: The creators seem to not reply to comments or if they do, they give very brief and non-descriptive answers. People that work hard on their music, in my experience, are happy to communicate with anyone that likes their stuff enough to comment or ask about it. Not always, but usually anyway. If you see that behavior and other things on this list, its suspicious.
7: They typically won't be heavy followers of other accounts. These people come here to upload their AI crap, not because they are musicians wanting to make connections with other musicians. In fact, they probably want to avoid getting close to musicians who might pull their mask off. Just about every musician I know on here is going to have other musicians stuff in their faves, are following a bunch of other musicians, have shouts on their profile, are leaving comments on other peoples work. Not everyone is a social butterfly but there will generally be SOME activity showing they are networking a bit and finding content they enjoy in their own medium which is music. These AI accounts tend to have few followers, are following few if any accounts, aren't faving anything or if they are its probably not music. Its not a sure tell on every point here, but my over all point is that these accounts seem pretty lonely. Like particularly suspicious if the stuff they post seems REALLY polished and like they SHOULD be nerds about what they are doing.
8: They may be using AI thumbnails.
9: Are they posting wildly varied and different stuff? Are they posting anything else? If so, does that shit look like its AI generated, or stolen, or suspicious for other reasons? Again, its hard to tell for sure with some of this stuff, but again, people kinda have a pattern with shit they upload. If they are posting a bunch of shit that looks like all different styles and seeming to take credit themselves, then thats pretty suspicious. That goes also for people that post wildly different styles of music too. Like if you see a couple screemo uploads followed by some song with ripped off lyrics from seseme street, then that is pretty sus. Musicians tend to learn to play in a style. There will be little flureshes they like to use, chord progressions they fall back to, instruments they know how to play so they use them. Most people, no matter how talented at being varied and multitalented will always have an element that sounds like *them* in what they do.
10: Does something not listed here also peak your spidy sense? Does something feel just a bit off? Well, sniff around a bit more and you might find more sussy stuff about it. Chances are that if someone is uploading bullshit, they know they are uploading bullshit and they are going to act like someone uploading bullshit. It will feel like something OTHER than a typical user who comes here to upload and talk about heir craft, find creators they love and engage with the community. If you don’t have a good answer to "why is this person being this weird about everything" it might be that they aren't here for the same reasons most of us come here.
Anyway, these aren't all fool proof and they are just based on my anecdotal experiences, but I think they are a good starting point for anyone interested in learning to spot the bullshit thats been making its way here more and more lately.
In one case, I found someone that was using lyrics from Dutch pop songs as prompts and generating alternate AI versions of those same songs.
There are a few things I have noticed that these accounts have in common:
1: The stuff they upload sounds exceedingly polished and very generic. Like if the most bland shit imaginable was produced by amazing sound engineers. I'm not saying that furries can't also produce some really polished recordings, but its something to be suspicious of when the timing, vocal pitches, instrumentation is all absolutely fucking perfect. Even the greatest recordings will have some flaws.
2: There are never any credits. You hear what sounds like a vocalist, some guitar players, synth, drums etc and you never see any musicians credited with doing those parts. If someone is doing ALL that themselves and doing it absolutely perfectly, they would have better things to do than upload to FA. If someone is in a band, they will credit their bandmates or collab partners. If on the other hand, something is AI, the user is likely to be extremely reluctant to talk about who did what, because rather than having something to nerd out about or brag about, they have something that on some level they are ashamed of or at least don't want to admit. Musicians won't shut up about their work. When someone doesn't even want to talk about it, something is up!
3: The profiles are generally pretty sparse. They won't include common info that musicians tend to add like what instruments they play, other places you can find their content, people they work with, other projects they are involved with. Musicians tend to like to talk about and boost their work and they also tend to be involved in a number of projects and interests they will mention. If you don't see any of that, something is likely up with the profile. Again, the recordings are going to sound like a LOT of effort went into them. Someone that puts that much time into their work is probably going to take a least a little time setting up a reasonably fleshed out profile.
4: The uploads are frequent. If you have someone posting simple guitar/vocal recordings every other day, thats one thing but if someone is uploading a full on metal opera every day, sometimes multiple times a day, that shit is ABSOLUTELY fake. Complex recordings take days, weeks, months to throw together and produce. You cant release a Bohemian Rhapsody every single day, thats just not a pace a human being can keep up with.
5: No lyrics posted and the descriptions are very brief if they have any at all. Its not always a tell, a lot of people don't post their lyrics with their stuff, but it is a little suspicious if someone hits any of these other points and ALSO doesn't post the words they wrote. Sometimes AI users will in fact upload lyrics too, so again, not a perfect tell. What I will say that is if you are working on a recording that is really complex, chances are high you will take some time to detail what you have done in the description and that would likely include writing out the words to the song.
6: The creators seem to not reply to comments or if they do, they give very brief and non-descriptive answers. People that work hard on their music, in my experience, are happy to communicate with anyone that likes their stuff enough to comment or ask about it. Not always, but usually anyway. If you see that behavior and other things on this list, its suspicious.
7: They typically won't be heavy followers of other accounts. These people come here to upload their AI crap, not because they are musicians wanting to make connections with other musicians. In fact, they probably want to avoid getting close to musicians who might pull their mask off. Just about every musician I know on here is going to have other musicians stuff in their faves, are following a bunch of other musicians, have shouts on their profile, are leaving comments on other peoples work. Not everyone is a social butterfly but there will generally be SOME activity showing they are networking a bit and finding content they enjoy in their own medium which is music. These AI accounts tend to have few followers, are following few if any accounts, aren't faving anything or if they are its probably not music. Its not a sure tell on every point here, but my over all point is that these accounts seem pretty lonely. Like particularly suspicious if the stuff they post seems REALLY polished and like they SHOULD be nerds about what they are doing.
8: They may be using AI thumbnails.
9: Are they posting wildly varied and different stuff? Are they posting anything else? If so, does that shit look like its AI generated, or stolen, or suspicious for other reasons? Again, its hard to tell for sure with some of this stuff, but again, people kinda have a pattern with shit they upload. If they are posting a bunch of shit that looks like all different styles and seeming to take credit themselves, then thats pretty suspicious. That goes also for people that post wildly different styles of music too. Like if you see a couple screemo uploads followed by some song with ripped off lyrics from seseme street, then that is pretty sus. Musicians tend to learn to play in a style. There will be little flureshes they like to use, chord progressions they fall back to, instruments they know how to play so they use them. Most people, no matter how talented at being varied and multitalented will always have an element that sounds like *them* in what they do.
10: Does something not listed here also peak your spidy sense? Does something feel just a bit off? Well, sniff around a bit more and you might find more sussy stuff about it. Chances are that if someone is uploading bullshit, they know they are uploading bullshit and they are going to act like someone uploading bullshit. It will feel like something OTHER than a typical user who comes here to upload and talk about heir craft, find creators they love and engage with the community. If you don’t have a good answer to "why is this person being this weird about everything" it might be that they aren't here for the same reasons most of us come here.
Anyway, these aren't all fool proof and they are just based on my anecdotal experiences, but I think they are a good starting point for anyone interested in learning to spot the bullshit thats been making its way here more and more lately.
You lose the joy of creativity. You lose the joy of self-expression.
It's soulless and has no care or thought put into it
I think I might actually use this list of tells next year, so good info, thanks!
~Puppy