https://apexgamingpcs.com/products/.....29416811233374

Dunno if this would be any better since I'm deaf dumb and blind when it comes to tech XD But a friend of mine who is into tech said it was a good way to go for gaming; figure Blender might not be that far off

I think i whant this one XD https://apexgamingpcs.com/collectio.....ts/apex-xtreme

Yea yours is a decent one indeed and probably will work , however the rams seems low. Thanks i'll keep looking and see what comes out of it. I suck at this since i am looking for like half a year for it and stuff just keeps added.

Alright X3 well it looks like you have others in the comments willing to help too

Hi,

I built two computers recently and it's really not that hard. Also I work in IT so I don't come from nowhere. About what you would want.

It depends what you do with it. If you want to game and render you'll need some good GPU but also CPU and RAM. So here some tips. If you want more info don't hesitate to PM me.

CPU: AMD Ryzen (Zen 2) is indeed the best for now and seem it will be the go to for some time too. I would advise at least a Ryzen 7 3700X which is good for both gaming and rendering but you can check for higher. Some have integrated cooling (CPU fan) or basic integrated GPU. You can check on the manufacturer site, selling site or some forum. Of course you can check Intel but spec/price are now better with AMD.

Motherboard: Must be compatible with the CPU (AMD vs Intel). If you take a Ryzen, you'll want a AM4 CPU socket (form of the place in which the CPU goes). Some have more or less place for what you'll put on it and a more interesting back panel (USB, sound, video, ...) and you'll want to check for integrated WIFI (not all have it). Also you'll find PCIe 3.0 and 4.0, the later being twice as fast but a bit more expensive. Not always useful as with most spec you won't use all of the 3.0 capabilities but will slowly become the new normal so up to you (note that with some motherboard with PCIe 3.0 you'll have to ask for it to be made compatible with the new AMD CPU; not the case with 4.0)

Cooling: Watercooling is nice and quiet but expensive and not as easy to install so for a first build maybe not. Also it's not sure you'll need it. As said some CPU come with integrated cooling (a CPU fan) and it can be enough for most use. If you need more well Noctua is the best brand IMO (if often ugly but they're working on that). If you plan on overclocking, a better cooling is needed but if it's your first build well again, maybe don't. Some parts will have heatsink integrated which is better to dissipate heat but not always needed (overclocking or not) and adds a bit on the price.

RAM: At least 16 GB but I don't think you'll need more than 32 GB. 8 isn't enough anymore. Obviously DDR4 (but it shouldn't be a problem, DDR3 is obsolete). Check the speed (Mhz because it's useless to have 512 GB RAM if it's slow af. At the same time, too fast is useless if the CPU or Motherboard don't follow (it bottlenecks or sometimes can't even use it). I personally have 2.4Ghz but you can go higher (I don't render).

GPU: Nvidia is still (unfortunately) uncontested (as the prices show). Best in non professional is RTX 2080 Ti with a price tag to match. Under is are GTX 1080 Ti (hard to find as Nvidia is pushing their RTX tech) and then RTX 2080.

Storage : You'll want an SSD M.2 for the OS and an HDD for your files. I have 256 GB SSD M.2 and 2TB HDD but you'll have to check what YOU need. SSD has a writing limit more or less high depending on the tech; SLC being the best (can be rewritten on more) but the most expensive, followed by MLC and TLC (there is worse but it's not worth). I have MLC and it's good enough for many. HDD you'll want to check on RPM (7200 is best) and cache (I recommend minimum 128 MB). I recommend Samsung (SSD) and Seagate (HDD) for the best brands.

Power supply : Check the Watts it gives. Too little and you can't power up your gear. Take a bit of margin if you plan on upgrading later.

Case : Check something that can airflow correctly. Fans, size, ...

Display: Well I have dual monitor both in 1080p. One in 144Hz for gaming and one with 60 Hz (my old). 24' both. Check what you need. For example if you take a bad GPU and your game can't run above 60 fps it's useless to have a 144Hz. I didn't take 4K because I didn't see the use but some will.

For everything mentioned it's only indications but you'll have to see what YOU need. I'm open for more questions if needed. Do use https://pcpartpicker.com/ to check compatibility and overall prices. My new rig cost me a a bit over 2K $ with a new Screen and it was a year ago so I think you can be settled with good merch for 2K $ and going above 3K $ would be overkill. You can of course take more of less of everything, it depends of your goal and if you plan on upgrading (easier with home builds). Plan on this too. Some things are trending but overall useless (*cough* RGB *cough*) and other are becoming less widespread (double GPU).

Go check forums (reddit or others) and what's trending hardware wise. Check Youtube for build guides and tutorial (LinusTechTips is one amongst many). Finally PM me if you want.

After re-reading what I wrote I notice that I proposed stuff more on the higher end price wise. It's that I prefer to begin with good stuff that I won't need to upgrade for some time so I start strong. But you can also take most things on like this and one or two with a lesser tech expectancy while planning to upgrading later. I made the computer for a friend in which the GPU was less powerful but for it to be the first upgrade in one or two years time. Some things are easier to upgrade like GPU and storage. Motherboard is harder and RAM depends on how you set yours (they always go in pair and if you upgrade, you either double your actual RAM or replace everything. That's why I would advise to begin with two RAM modules instead of four (for example, 16 GB in 2x8GB instead of 4x4GB. Easier to double). And you will take the same RAM later because if you take a different speed it will cap on the lower modules speed.

Holy canoly what a huge reply , thanks for typing all of that out.

Well basicly for games, tough i don't intensivly play high end games nor competetive. Think my last most amazing game i played whas bioshock infinite. Tough i do wonna (try) get more into blender and stuff out for sfm. I've read ( gotta find the artickle again ) that for creating gpu is better , rendering is cpu as i understood it. As i don't see me creating images in blender so rendering nor animations i think i can focus best on gpu. last one i did creating an apple basket whas fun but took time to render and still looked odd to me.

for cpu they said a threadripper3970x whas the best , i diden't even knew they had those but dauym $$$

WIFI no thanks , solid cables for me thank you very mutch. Yea the latest are going to be the norm in a while and afterwards obselete like many previous ones.

Never understood overcklocking so am not going to dab into that area, fans are fine , they aren't that loud but noticable more in the summer. Plus if it does i can always put on some headphones.

think i saw on that blender page even a 64 GB RAMS and something about kits. So yea thats defenatly overkill 32 soudns reasonable.

Yea the RTX 2080 Ti seems recomended aswel

They said something about 3 spots to save. I should have written it down. One whas for the OS so obviously on an SSD , then a second SSD for the auro save files or something and then a HDD for the actual save. I think i'll go with one SSD and 2 HDD , steam games take up a LOT of space. Plus all those updates constantly with my blizz games is also filling it up nicely. If not or too expensive i'll see if i can use my old ones as external disks to put files on.

4K is indeed for those who are pros and stuff , they recommended the one above 1080P. I'll probably also go dual, this one for just the normal stuff like browsing and things , and the other for the games like you.

Thanks again for the explenation and help , i'll look arround more to see whats best for it's buck and my tailored needs.

These where the ones i recently saw/read as reference.

https://www.cgdirector.com/best-com.....r-for-blender/
https://www.cgdirector.com/best-com....._and_Rendering

Ah yes if you focus heavily on rendering a more powerful CPU than what I mentioned and more RAM isn't a bad idea. In fact for rendering the 16 GB I mentioned is way down and you should go see for min 32GB. They talk about kits because as said previously they sell by two or more modules (32 GB will often be 2x16GB). You can always start with something and upgrade if it's not enough but ask on forums as I'm no expert on rendering at all.

ThreadRipper is the highest end on Desktop CPU from AMD and another big one is coming which may or may not make some price go down. Not sure if you need to go that high and maybe a 3950X may suffice but as said, not sure about rendering. Well in the end you can render with some less stellar hardware but it will be slower.

Two SSD is often to have one which will basically be a cache to help some operations to be made more quickly. HDD are not really expensive (2TB for 50$ approx) contrary to SSD. With this you'll have to see what place you actually need. Some put one SSD for the OS, one for "cache" (not exactly but let's go with this) or one for games (which can be less rewritten than the one for the OS but they don't plan to move a lot of files but to just put the games to load quicker). HDD you can simply take one with lots of space or indeed have some external as backup.

I didn't mention but you'll have to see if you want integrated CD/DVD/BluRay player. Personally I don't have one (space for it in my case just not the use) and if I wanted one I would more likely take an external (may be slower but if you don't use if often).

For sound except if you mix music you won't need special sound card (Motherboard has one for basic needs) but when you take a new monitor check if it has sound (if you don't already have speaker and don't always want to be on headphones).

Wifi well some need it because they don't always have the possibility to go on Ethernet/RJ45 cables but even if you take Wifi you will have Ethernet too. It's a bonus to consider but you may not need it... yet. Your call.

Finally overclocking. Tricky thing. Nowadays lot of hardware are OC ready but also some get their warranty voided by it. It can boost a bit your PC but also can quicken its end or even kill it if badly done. Of course now there are also "pre-build" overclocking setup to overclock safely but it's really if you want to milk to the last bit of Hz from your rig.

How it works simplified (and not exact !!!):
Overclocking: CPU does an operation each ticks of its "clock". Clock speed is the Hz you see on GPU, RAM and, in this case, CPU. Overclocking is simply a way to tell you CPU to do more ticks in a second as to what it's built for (like trying to cram 72 seconds in a minute). Takes more energy, stress a bit the material and gets more heat (the usual risk is overheating obviously).
Cores: they are like a physical brain. Each brain does one operation. With 5Ghz and two cores you get ten Billion operation per seconds. Now threads (two per cores) is a "virtual brain" (again not exact but you get the idea) and allow your CPU to gives more operation to be done in parallel (like if you cook a cake with someone instead of alone and instead of measuring the sugar THEN breaking the eggs, you do both at the same time).
Memory: RAM is like memory for operation. If you do 2+2+5 you'll do 2+2, store 4 in your memory then do 4+5. Well the storing is in the RAM while you do the operation (with of course more complex operations) and then you write the final result on the SSD/HDD.
GPU: is a CPU specifically made for graphics. That's all.
With this you may see why some combination can't work. Too little RAM and you have to make less operation for which you can't store temporary information. Too little GHz or cores and you will do the same operations in more time. Etc.

Have a plan (which takes into account potential upgrades), check compatibility, ask about it on forums (price/capacity for needs) and as said, I'm available for more questions.

I agree with Dark Tickler.
I built my own system a couple years ago.
specs
I-7 8700k 6 core (delidded) over clocked and water cooled. Will most likely switch to AMD when I decide to build my next rig...more bang for the buck.

32 gigs of DDR4 3000 . Very nice amount for 3D apps.

1000w power supply (for upgrades)

1TB ssd os drive with one 2TB hd and another 4tb hd for games and storage..

1080 ti 11 gig graphics card Great card But hard to find at a reasonable price.
Running 2 monitors, one 144hz (games and render) G-sync and one old 60hz(watch Youtube and surf while rendering )

That sounds like a nice rig indeed. Am realy not used to the whole overclock and watercooling stuff so i avoid it like the plague.
Woa 4TB ?? well games do tend to take up a ton of space , specially when you have one or more that constantly update with seasonal events etc.
Isen't the 1TB SSD overkill?? i got like a 60 for years and well now it's getting full so a 100-200 seems fine. Unless you realy have a ton of programs to use.

I also going to need a bigger desk to support 2 screens then.

1TB can be overkill but ssd are a lot cheaper than they used to be, and I'm lousy at disk management. Right now my OS ssd is half full LOL..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIQfFIBjfXE this build is a good one to go by if your main thing is building an upgrade path for the next few years its a budget one though so if you can afford more you have the room. ya can note if you have questions on building or setting the thing. i can try and find you the right instructions.

Thanks for the assit but thats a vid from jan 2019... it's 2020 man gotta keep up with the times. Like you buy one now , next week there is a better one out, tech goes up reaaaaly fast , unfortunally the prices don't go down as fast. I would like to aim for at least a ryzen 7 and if possible even the 9.

I think you can still follow this kind of set up and just move up in price. The g veriant should still be a thing and you can follow the form factor and all that jazz. Tbh ive been to broke to even break out into the newer stuff but ive been planning about the same thing you have for this comming year lol.

Oooh better save up then or work your ass off or get lucky in the lottery or something. But yea i've been browsing a load , it's getting reaaaaaly expensive the higer you go but i honestly don't wonna change it again in 3 years or so , better get a big rig instead of a budget one.
If we aim for a budget then we can replace parts like every year or so , it's cheaper but then you keep changing parts to make it better and better.
So one high end complete one sounds a lot easier and less costly. It's like buying a second hands car and replacing the bad parts with new ones every time but thats costly over time.

yee, and you can basically swap out anything in the vid for something nicer and it still kinda applies for those who have never built their own pc before xP