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ATL Protests BLM
5 years ago
⭐️ be rootin, be tootin, and by god be shootin ⭐️ Hey y'all. I tend to avoid being too vocal here about my stances, but this is an event where silence is violence. As some of you may now I live in the greater Atlanta area in Georgia. We're perfectly safe so don't worry about that. I'm white as skim milk so my statement here is in solidarity and an earnest wish for my neighbors and friends to stay safe but to keep doing what they can to support the protests.
Our country is on the verge of a tipping point. I've lived in the south for most of my life and it's not an exaggeration that racism is alive and well. On the other side of Atlanta is Stone Mountain, a giant granite boulder with a 100 foot carving of confederate leaders Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis. The monument was the site of KKK cross-burnings for fifty years. It still has a connection to the KKK and the neonazi and neo-confederate movements.
Atlanta is a city built literally from the ashes of the confederate war, largely by African Americans. It has a long history of systemic racism, civil rights protests, and honestly some of the big wins of the south in terms of African American governance, prosperity and solidarity, but it's also the place where Gone With the Wind was set and premiered, the place where everyone 'knows' the good and bad parts of town. Yes, we have MLK's childhood home in Old Fourth Ward, but O4W is the site of rampant gentrification and degradation. We have Southside which is the poorest and most crime-ridden area of Atlanta and then we have Chattahoochie Plantation, an area of multi-million dollar homes owned by the elite.
Yes, each city has their history, but we're smack-dab in the middle of some humongous racial history and yet our protests are small and dwindling. Our governor, Kemp, is not here to help us. He takes his orders directly from Trump and frankly, I'm worried that any big protests here would most certainly end in large loss of life. We have no great leadership, and the city keeps instating curfews only thirty minutes before they go into effect, while also shutting down our public transit.
If you've made it this far, I doubt I have to persuade you that these protests need to happen. Institutionalized racism, police corruption and the hatred of the conservative party have birthed the need for revolution, not the other way around. I hope to see Atlanta take a stronger stance. I hope the fire doesn't die out.
>This should also go without saying, but if you disagree with the message of Black Lives Matter, you can unfollow me. I will not debate you. I will not engage with you. No #all lives matter. No #not all cops are bastards. It is not my job to grant you the benefit of the doubt or engage in debate with you to justify your stance. I wouldn't argue with a flatearther or an anti-vaxxer because they're too far gone to reason with. Go argue with a mirror and stop trying to inflict pain on people, thanks.
Our country is on the verge of a tipping point. I've lived in the south for most of my life and it's not an exaggeration that racism is alive and well. On the other side of Atlanta is Stone Mountain, a giant granite boulder with a 100 foot carving of confederate leaders Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis. The monument was the site of KKK cross-burnings for fifty years. It still has a connection to the KKK and the neonazi and neo-confederate movements.
Atlanta is a city built literally from the ashes of the confederate war, largely by African Americans. It has a long history of systemic racism, civil rights protests, and honestly some of the big wins of the south in terms of African American governance, prosperity and solidarity, but it's also the place where Gone With the Wind was set and premiered, the place where everyone 'knows' the good and bad parts of town. Yes, we have MLK's childhood home in Old Fourth Ward, but O4W is the site of rampant gentrification and degradation. We have Southside which is the poorest and most crime-ridden area of Atlanta and then we have Chattahoochie Plantation, an area of multi-million dollar homes owned by the elite.
Yes, each city has their history, but we're smack-dab in the middle of some humongous racial history and yet our protests are small and dwindling. Our governor, Kemp, is not here to help us. He takes his orders directly from Trump and frankly, I'm worried that any big protests here would most certainly end in large loss of life. We have no great leadership, and the city keeps instating curfews only thirty minutes before they go into effect, while also shutting down our public transit.
If you've made it this far, I doubt I have to persuade you that these protests need to happen. Institutionalized racism, police corruption and the hatred of the conservative party have birthed the need for revolution, not the other way around. I hope to see Atlanta take a stronger stance. I hope the fire doesn't die out.
>This should also go without saying, but if you disagree with the message of Black Lives Matter, you can unfollow me. I will not debate you. I will not engage with you. No #all lives matter. No #not all cops are bastards. It is not my job to grant you the benefit of the doubt or engage in debate with you to justify your stance. I wouldn't argue with a flatearther or an anti-vaxxer because they're too far gone to reason with. Go argue with a mirror and stop trying to inflict pain on people, thanks.
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I'm also not criticizing Colin's cause. I'm just saying you're a fool if you think peaceful protests have done anything for black people and police violence.
Violent demonstrations can and have spurred change in America when all other attempts to do so have failed. It was in fact rioting that helped lead to the American Revolution that allowed us to break away from Britain in the first place, which I'll remind you is celebrated every year as a national holiday. Not to mention ending things like segregation and the decriminalization of being LGBTQ+. Hell there's been riots over who won and lost sporting events that have been brushed off and laughed about as people "Being Passionate". The double standard is frankly disguising.
Hell, the only reason mostly white people get upset with PoC protesting and such was because of some pretty shady FBI propaganda in the 60's and 70's. People don't get this ugly when it's white folks protesting stupid stuff.
Instead of being upset that riots happened, be upset about what caused it to occur. Be upset that as a country, we've failed to treat all of our citizens with the respect they deserve as a human being. Be upset that peaceful protests were met with anger and further harassment and violence. Be upset that this isn't the first time protests were tried, but that it's just the latest ones. Be upset for police who vastly escalate and white supremacists who get into the crowd to stir up shit (which is what happened where I live).
It's sad that we've failed so badly that it came to this. Because we should have done better long ago.
Kemp may have cheated in the GA governor's election but if just 3% more people turned out to vote, the brilliant Stacey Abrams would be in charge instead.
Change is possible and this might be the energy surge we need to make a difference. I refuse to be cynical about voting.
>disclaimer: I know as much about politics as I do a combustion engine. I can tell you how it's supposed to work but I have no clue how to fix it when it breaks.
Hope this makes you feel better about it :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQLbNekBU1A
Make them fear our votes more than the lack of police union support. One thing's certain though: Republicans must be defeated, or the situation will be made far worse.
Yeah, that's a very narrow-minded opinion.
Funny how your post ends with "but most of all, be kind". Even for a generic signature, that's in stark contrast with the sentences right above it.
Alright. You don't respect others, so why should I respect you?
It said that there are two senses of 'respect' -- 'treat like a person' and 'defer to authority' -- and many people end up using multiple senses in the same sentence, maybe even without recognizing it.
What I'm trying to say is that your last sentence scans to "You don't defer to authority, so why should I treat you like a person?"
Do better, please.
I prefer the slogan- ALL lives matter. It speaks the truth w/o getting mired IN the topic of racism. Black isn't better than White, which isn't better than Brown/Yellow/Purple/etc..
I don't support the vandalism, arson, personal attacks against Citizenry, by ANY 'Group'.
Getting pissed-off at our inept Govt./Law Enforcement/Judicial System/Tax (ie IRS) system(s)?
Hell yes.
I don't see the riots going on now, being a 'BLM' topic.
As I mentioned to another person, what's happening is a govt. out of control, murdering the very citizenry they swore an Oath to 'Protect and Serve'. Black, white, green, yellow, purple, doesn't matter (to me).
When a person's life is literally choked out of existence, after they've been restrained and are lying on the ground, not presenting a threat in any fashion?
THAT is the issue, at least in my mind/heart/soul.
It is heinous, it is reprehensible, it is indeed an indicator of just how far into the evil side of power/tyranny things have gotten.
I'm not ranting against you or your thoughts, so I hope you aren't taking it this way.
I'm pissed-off in ways I can't get into here and now, but having served my Country, and sworn a very similar Oath (to defend it/our Constitution and Bill of Rights)?
I see bad cops pulling shit like this, and my blood boils...
All lives matter does not take-away from this topic.
It IS the point of this topic/current social calamity.
Peace.
It's a call for attention from an institutionally marginalized and oppressed group of people. To pretend that the issues faced by these people don't have anything to do with race is to ignore part of the problem entirely. It might seem like you're taking the high road, by saying you care about ALL life, which I'm sure you actually do, but what you're really doing is taking the wind out of the sails of the BLM movement, as will as distracting people from the actual problems at hand.
I'm not claiming you do all this because of some sort of malefic intent. But do understand that at this moment, by responding to these people with the phrase "but all lives matter", you're trying to negate their point, which is that racism is still a huge issue for a lot of people, and that it needs to be addressed if society ever wants to move past these problems.
Respect.
To earn it, you have to show it.
bruh, if you're a DL you're lumped in with us. Doesn't matter what *YOU* think, outsiders lump it all together. Also what Cucumber said below, that all lives matter shit is a fash response.
What part of my reply to YOUR comment, gave you or anyone else, the impression I'm a 'DL' (Diaper Lover)?
WTF does any of this have to do with the OP in the first place, except for you bringing it into the fray, where it did not, and does not, belong?
I am not responsible for what others do.
Others are not responsible for what I do.
Personal responsibility IS the root problem of the OP/my first reply/and the entire topic of this ongoing social chaos going-on right here, right now.
A bad cop did something that caused a handcuffed/restrained man's death. THAT cop has been arrested, charged with murder, his wife is divorcing him, and he's going to be tried in a court of law for what he did.
Everything these rampaging mobs are doing, since?
None of it is justified, as our 'Govt./System' IS DOING ITS JOB(s)! The dude who choked the life out of a Citizen is being dealt with.
I don't think of this as a BLM (which to me and most of those around me, stands for 'Bureau of Land Management', hence my dislike of acronyms being thrown around so carelessly) topic.
It is a govt. out of control, causing harm to the very society govt. swore an Oath to 'Protect and Serve'.
Period.
So, keep the diapers where they belong, and keep the politics where it belongs. Yes, both may be full of shit, but that doesn't mean they're one-and-the-same topic.
Thanks.
You pop in and pop off with a name like that, you're gonna get called out. Lmao though that you think decades of oppression isn't what's had this simmering for years and decades. "rampaging mobs" your bias is showing dude.
You live in an interesting Universe.
Christ, I love it when keyboard warriors try talking salty!
GOOD RIDDANCE WITH THAT SHIT OPINION.
But yeah, for the nasayers, actually educate yourselves and stop being part of the problem~
No one deserves to be choked to death but he was not the gentle giant the Media claims he is. I get that he left Houston to start a new life in Minneapolis and who wouldn't want to start a new life? But I would much rather chant Trayvon Martin's name.
I'll probably get called many things for this comment but before you jumped to conclusion, consider this- I'm an immigrant minority who was raised in D.C. and have participated in many rallies and protests. And in this District the people are very much about peaceful protests, however these recent demonstrations have many looting, burning, vandalizing, etc and it pains me to see my communities monuments and cemeteries defaced.
Also why are we bringing up his past? That has no influence as to why he was killed in the present.
Unfortunately, George Floyd was the straw that broke the camel's back.
If you look at it like a venn diagram, yes, there is overlap, but the majority of the two groups are not the same. There's plenty of video and picture evidence of undercover cops and white anarchists instigating the violence, knowing full well the black and brown people will be their scapegoats. As well as several articles of the majority of BLM leaders and activists calling for peaceful protests and begging their white allies from destroying property in their name.
Also, it's not just about George Floyd. He is just one of many, including Tamir Rice, that people have been saying as well. But George Floyd was the straw that broke the camel's back. He was still an unarmed black man who would still be alive if the police did not kneel on his neck for 8 minutes. The Minneapolis PD tried to blame it on his "heart condition" as well, not the officer actively putting his body weight on Floyd's neck. To bring up his criminal history is irrelevant and counterproductive to the movement if you truly claim to support it. They said the same about Michael Brown. And Eric Gardner. And Ahmad Arbery.
The cops do not get to decide who lives or dies based in their racial bias - that is the whole point.
That's an excuse to murder him for alleged forgery? Really?
Also, are you trying to say that I'm RocketsBar? You realize my account is like a year OLDER than theirs, right? XD
Plus, yknow "he was no angel" is lke, hella shady.
You're supposed to lick the boot, not make an entire meal out of it.
Black, White, Hispanic, Asian, Gay, Straight, HUMAN lives matter when it comes to police brutality.
This is not a one race issue.
Police need to be demilitarized and require a massive shit ton more training and evaluation.
Police need to serve and PROTECT the public, that means EVERYONE.
Corrupt cops need to be strung up.
Stonewall was a riot.
The American Revolution was a riot.
Desegregation was a riot.
The double standard needs to stop, because like all of these events through history, nobody cared until the oppressed rose up and FORCED people to pay attention.
Try listening instead of judging, because while property can be replaced the dead cannot be brought back to life and hundreds of years of pain and suffering cannot be washed away.
Also: Not every business owner can afford the overpriced insurance, so while you try to justify actual criminal and anarchist behavior actual innocent people and minorities are going to have their businesses and lives ruined. Business insurance is insanely expensive and many businesses don't carry "total loss" insurance. A lot of places, mostly minority owned, from the 1992 riots could never afford to re open their businesses and much of those areas and storefronts are still shuttered and abandoned today, and many of the people that could afford insurance, took the money and moved to safer states and cities.
Also Also: Stonewall was labeled a riot by police to justify use of force.
The gays were not burning their community down, the few that were violent were only violent towards the police after being attacked, everyone else was singing and dancing and yelling.
I actually made a journal/essay on it here https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/8298188/ about some of the misconceptions of the stonewall "riots".
Also Also Also: MLK didn't support rioting:
King didn’t defend rioters but merely said that there was understandable anger underlying their actions. In the Stanford version of the speech King said:
It is as necessary for me to be as vigorous in condemning the conditions which cause persons to feel that they must engage in riotous activities as it is for me to condemn riots. I think America must see that riots do not develop out of thin air. Certain conditions continue to exist in our society which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn riots. But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met.
The section about the “language of the unheard” immediately follows this paragraph:
Let me say as I’ve always said, and I will always continue to say, that riots are socially destructive and self-defeating. I’m still convinced that nonviolence is the most potent weapon available to oppressed people in their struggle for freedom and justice. I feel that violence will only create more social problems than they will solve. That in a real sense it is impracticable for the Negro to even think of mounting a violent revolution in the United States. So I will continue to condemn riots, and continue to say to my brothers and sisters that this is not the way. And continue to affirm that there is another way.
Since you wanna quote King with a Youtube video, why not these quotes below?
"Every man of humane convictions must decide on the protest that best suits his convictions, but we must all protest.”
"“Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.”
”Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.”
“We adopt the means of nonviolence because our end is a community at peace with itself. We will try to persuade with our words, but if our words fail, we will try to persuade with our acts.”
Oppressed people cannot remain oppressed forever. The yearning for freedom eventually manifests itself.”
.......any of those justify your point yet?
You can quote literally every word MLK has said in his whole life, he still didn't support riots and attacking innocent people.
If you literally can't read between the lines.......also.......don't ever use the word Negro. It has racial undertones to it but maybe that's me as a Black American being sensitive -w-
Also......get over the rioting? Like yes it sucks, etc but history is full of it.
Also it is a direct word for word quote from his speech, so you basically just called MLK a racist. Here's the actual video recording if you don't believe me. https://youtu.be/6EZ5Ja-1y08
That aside, you really are dense right? Or just don't give a fuck about Black voices and continue to try and silence them. Look at the various quotes I posted. Also, again many times in history riots resulted in burn towns and shit so like why is it suddenly being condemned? Are you that uncomfortable with racial injustice?
Don't tell me how to feel, how to think, how I choose to protest as a Black person. Seriously. You're part of the problem.
I never said black lives don't matter, I never said black people should be silent. All I am saying is it is sad to see the words of a great man that I wholeheartedly admire for being vehemently non-violent being twisted in a way as an excuse to be violent and hurt innocent people.
If I only had a choice between corrupt cops or BLM I would easily support BLM without a second thought.
Also I don't believe I should edit the direct word for word quotes from MLK to fit your modern sensibilities. I'm sorry if Mr. King's words offend you.
I or my Mexican American husband didn't feel the need to riot and loot and burn our town down when protesting for gay marriage and gay rights against all the hateful cops, rightwing nut jobs, and religious freaks. Being pepper sprayed is not fun.
If you want to label me a racist then go ahead I've been called a mixed breed by whites and a mutt by blacks, but I still believe in Mr. King's non violent approach to protesting, and if you don't agree with that, that is entirely your prerogative.
Take care and stay safe.
1: While I have sympathy for those small business owners and am fully aware how hard it is to operate one, as several people in my family own small businesses, the vast majority of the looting people are complaining about are from big-box and luxury goods stores who are fully capable of paying for repairs and replacing merchandise. Let's also not miss the that many instances of property damage has been done by the police, white people on a thrill ride and alt-right organization members deliberately looking to make the BLM movement look as bad as possible. Not to mention the fact that there's been many fundraisers put together to help small businesses, that many rioters have protected small locally own stores and even come to help them clean up the next morning and some small businesses have even voiced their support of the riots. Also that it's funny how little people care about small POC owned businesses until it can be used as fodder to gaslight people acting out over being abused for centuries.
2: How the hell do you gather that Stonewall was just people dancing and singing? Might want to re-read your history there, bub.
"The gays" as you so affectionately label them, threw bottles, stones, bricks and so on at police. They formed kick lines, set fires, got into brawls with police and flipped cars. There's people still alive and well today who remember the riots very clearly who've confirmed it through many interviews.
https://imgur.com/XUGaBOs
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3: Most of the riots happening today were only started after peaceful protests were turned violent by the police. Peaceful protests have been done time and time again only to be met with mockery and backlash.
4: Again notice how you ignore the fact that this country has faced great change after the impact of riots throughout it's history and celebrates those riots today, and I'll point at that the US is by far the only country that has.
4: While MLK was a brave and admirable man who shared a great amount of wisdom he is not the only voice of Black communities and Black history, yet he seems to be the only one white folks are able to muster up when they feel they can utilize his words to excuse their behavior. Thinking that every Black person and ally has to agree with every word he said, especially in this current political climate, is both idiotic and ignorant. I wish more than anything that this could have been settled peacefully. It shatters my heart seeing people having to fight tooth and nail just to to be heard and taken seriously, but history and the current day actions of this country and our police system has made it abundantly clear that it cannot. I doubt Mister King would have thought that his people were STILL being abused so long after his untimely death. If things need to be torn down in order to rebuild something better, then so be it. We will survive.
If all you can think about is objects and property you're part of the problem. You're one of those who would not listen to our Black communities and helped drag the situation to where it is now. I maintain that material things can be replaced; Live cannot. The fact that you can have this stance speaks to your privilege.
Also the gays at stonewall took their fight to the corrupt cops in self defense, again, they did not burn down their own community.
Also when did I say that black people have to agree with MLK? I was pointing out that using MLK as a justification to riot and hurt innocent people was wrong.
Believe it or not I hate corrupt and militarized police and would like nothing better than to see them swinging from light poles. So if you are saying that being against hurting innocent people and businesses makes me a cop boot licker you can fuck off.
This tribalism "with us or against us" bullshit is the reason we are where we are. It is possible to hate corrupt cops AND not agree with rioting and looting while still supporting protests and believing black lives and all other lives matter.
Innocent people should not be hurt or have their lives destroyed BY ANY SIDE!
And if you don't agree with that, that is fine, be that way.
They literally set shit on fire my dude. If you think that community only means property you need to do some serious soul searching.
I never mentioned MLK, you did, and I expressed why relying on his words as the be all end all of Black history and leadership is flawed.
We could also talk about the blatant racism, misogyny, transphobia and false/cherry-picked information in your "essay", especially considering you tried use a right-wing blog with fewer than 100 followers as a credible source. Unfortunately I don't have time to get into that.
Still not addressing the fact that the US and many other countries celebrate revolutions that came via violent riots.
Never said you're bootlicker, just that you're part of the problem. You're projecting but it's easy to understand why.
"Fine, be that way." Very wise. Very mature.
Gonna block you because there's no point in trying to argue with a brick. Hope you stay safe and healthy out there regardless and that 2020 will be a year of education and personal growth, because lord knows you need it honey. I'd suggest starting here: https://twitter.com/rhettmc/status/.....641022464?s=20
Rhett makes many good points from the viewpoint of a white man from a rural background. He also makes some excellent book suggestions for getting educated on the topic.
Okie dokie, you believe whatever you want to believe, sweetie schnookie lumpkins.
You are cherry picking while complaining about supposed cherry picking while glancing over other links and sources "like PBS and all the sources contained in the wiki post" to fit your agenda. lol But that is off topic for the discussion here.
And again I support peaceful protest and civil disobedience when it does not harm innocent people. If people want to go to war with the cops in self defense because the cops were the aggressors, that is their prerogative, but when they involve innocent people that is when I stop supporting them.
Encase I haven't made it clear, I still consider them protestors if they are only acting in self defense because the cops fired first and as long as they are only taking it out on the badguys, but I do not support them when they start involving innocent people in their rage.
I was about to mention the brick thing with you, but it looks like you beat me to it.
I'm NOT going to block you though because I don't believe that silencing and muting those you disagree with is a good way to win people over to your side.
So I will just have to agree to disagree with you. We can both agree corrupt and militarized police are bad, but I do NOT believe the ends justify the means if it will hurt and destroy the lives of innocent people.
Thank you for showing me the error of my ways oh wise denizen of a furry porn site.
I will seek out violence and vaginas now!
Thank you so very much!
I believe the de rigeur name for that move is a 'mask off' moment.
Anyway, 110 cities rioted after MLK said a bunch of stuff promoting peace and was murdered anyway, and six days later the Civil Rights Act was signed into law.
The government labelled antifa, which isn't an actual organization but simply people who identify themselves as being against facism, as a terrorist organization, which, if you weren't aware, allows the police and military to kill on sight. The President threatened to send the Army into states who weren't 'dominating' the riots, to attack American citizens, which is completely illegal under any circumstances. The president had his goons fire tear gas into peaceful protesters and at a priest because he wanted to be able to walk across the street for a photo op at that priest's church where he holds a Bible upside-down and looks stern. Tear gas which, need I remind you, is banned by 65 countries for use in war. Police are using cell phone tracking to find out where protesters live... why would they need to know that? What do they plan to do with that information? The National Guard has been called in and stationed in front of big brand name stores to defend them with violence from people who are being battered with rubber bullets and chemical weapons and trying to find a place to take cover. By the way, have you seen what a rubber bullet looks like? They're bigger than your fist. Their intended use is to be fired at the ground so they'll bounce up into people's legs to deter them from moving forward. They're being fired into people's skulls as those people kneel, hold signs, and plead with police to leave them alone as we speak.
But hey, some undercover cops broke the windows of a Target so that ignorant, willfully uninformed, privileged white people would condemn BLM further than they already do. Protesters got angry and yelled things at the police when the cops attacked them without warning. People pushed and shoved cops who were attacking unarmed protesters with batons and pepper spray. Clearly the rioters are the problem.
Kindly don't do so, regardless of your opinion or stance on things.
I know you won't stop calling for more violence and hatred, so I won't try to persuade you otherwise. But I do not agree. See the link above as to why I do not agree.
Also, I read your journal. As a white, European male, you say (and I'll use your words)" I do not support police brutality, or brutality in general.
I do not think minorities, or anyone, should be treated like trash. I do not support violence, murder, war, or any kind of mistreatment, whether as cause or reaction. I do not support criminal activity in any way. I do not support any kind of bigotry, racism, hatred, or supremacy, in any shape or form." While that's all good and well, that's not how it is at all in the US. You have the privilege of just brushing it aside because 1) you aren't American and 2) you aren't an oppressed minority.
Also if you feel so insulted indirectly, maybe just maybe educate yourself and do better? Stop harboring your own guilt or whatever and stop projecting it? People fail to see that when POC say Black Lives Matter we are not diminishing anyone elses life or importance at all and All Lives Matter in these kind of instances take away from the problem at hand.
Maybe its the fact that the political elite in the usa want to keep blacks divided, angry, poor, and fighting each other and other innocents.
Damage to material is nothing compared to the pain of losing someone just because of how they were born, it breaks my heart seeing videos about this.
im for the movement cause im part of the statics, I know the hurt and fear most dont get to walk away from...and honestly with all this madness we need a leader to calm this. really fix this Im afraid what will happen in the next coming days, the nation is tearing itself apart because of people worrying about political parties, and white and black...... its more of Racism vs blacks. We are people, we are a nation first and its time for them to wake up and fix this unbalanced madness.
You're all allowed to have your own opinions. Agree or disagree with me all you want. Hate me if you must. That's fine. I'm not going to engage in any discussion about this whole situation, and I'm not interested in hearing anyone's opinion. I'm not even reading any of these comments.
Also, kindly don't harass others, and try not to let your emotions make you say or do bad things. If you have to express yourself, do so in a respectful manner, unlike the artist whose journal we're posting on right now.
I know that right there is going to piss off some people who totally adore and agree with the artist, but look at it objectively for a moment: That last bit wasn't respectful to those who disagree with them. I call it as I see it, sorry, not sorry. I don't necessarily need an apology, nor do I expect the artist to care or change their behaviour. Much as I disagree with them, they are free to say whatever they want, even though I wish they didn't.
That's all I'm going to say about it. Have a good day, and stay safe out there. Peace~
So, you come here, making wild claims and personal attacks, then *BLOCK* the person you're insulting w/o even giving them the opportunity to reply?
Very mature of you, 'Luca'. I wish I could say your action surprises me.
Here, for you (and SalKitten, whom you've also insulted by your diatribe(s) on her Journal), is my reply to your last tirade.
Consider yourself un-followed, and now that I know you CAN *BLOCK* others on this site, that as well.
Congrats. Your lack of debating skills must be similar to your level of maturity. Both being extremely juvenile.
I follow many people on this site.
When I read a Journal that I too feel strongly about, I reply.
YOU are the one who 'Popped-in' and made a personal, erroneous comment about my Screen Name, that had absolutely nothing to do with the content of my comment to SalKitten's Journal post.
If anyone is trying to drag the 'DL' fandom into this, it is: you.
Did you bother asking me, first (a courtesy, and a way of showing respect to others), about my Screen Name?
No.
Have you bothered to ask me to clarify it, since, yet continue trying to drag it through the muck, again when it has absolutely nothing to do with my reply to SalKitten?
No.
Don't try talking saucy to me about 'Decades of oppression', if you haven't LIVED through decades of such. I grew-up during the civil riots, MLK, Caesar Chavez (I even attended/walked through a number of these marches, to support the immigrant agricultural workers), and have endured having my lack of melanin beaten into new colors 'Black-and-blue', throughout my childhood/young adulthood.
I grew up. I lived with, served beside, and worked with people from every skin color known to the palate. I realized that has nothing to do with the personal worth of the individual. You may someday realize this yourself, if you're lucky.
You don't see these domestic terrorists/looters/arsonists/criminal assaulting and even murdering citizens, as rampaging mobs? In what Universe would they be anything else? I don't care how hard you try, or how much it may hurt your tender feelings, but I call things how I see them, and when I see people behaving like a 'Rampaging mob', that's EXACTLY what I call them, instead of trying to paint them otherwise.
You do you. Don't expect, much-less demand everyone else follow your misguided lead.
You're in way over your head, and by your very actions/words you have a long, long way to go before you'll gain the experience(s) and wisdom I've already gleaned from this life.
If there's 'Bias' going-on here, you're the one bringing it.
If I have a bias, it's against stupidity/gullibility.
Go away Luca. You're starting to irritate me in ways you can't handle, and I truly don't have the patience to educate you. You're insulting SalKitten by mucking-up her Journal/topic, and being disrespectful to her and myself at the same time.
I wasn't the one who waltzed-in, making personal insults.
You and Luca? Peas-in-a-pod.
I wish you both many years of happiness in your Union.
I find it hilarious that you/he take such offense at someone merely sharing their own perspective(s) on things. 'I' did not insult you/he/others.
You should be taking notes, if you truly want to be taken seriously by adults.
That's your burden to bear.
Had Luca stated in his last tirade to me, that he had blocked me?
I wouldn't have bothered making my own reply in turn. Since I did invest my time to make a reply? I posted it. Deal.
How I type my posts is my own style. You don't like it? No one is making you suffer in the reading of them.
Yet here YOU are, trying to cry 'Foul/Victim'?!
Grow-up already.
I haven't made any attempt to prove me being better than anyone. I have and will maintain I am wiser that some, less than others. In Luca's example? No. I've never been a parent, nor do I feel the compulsion to interact with someone who is of 'Adult Age' in years lived, yet can't seem to converse with others in a mature fashion.
I'll leave that up to you, since you want to 'White Knight' this whole sad affair.
Good luck.
b) you're the one mucking up my topic at this point.
c) You are being offensive.
d) I literally had to sit back and wonder why I'm arguing with someone whose username is diaper stag.
fuckin' furries, man.
2) I withdraw from your topic, since my perspective and opinion seems to be mucking it up. Feel free to delete everything I've typed. I won't take offense.
3) I have yet to be/come offensive, but obviously giving people another viewpoint, here, certainly seems to have triggered more than a few. I'd find this amusing at the thin-skinned reactions, but as you said so succinctly-
Fuckin' furries, man.
G-day
Also fucking lol. "diapered stag" really is just, how do you pop into a journal like this with a name like that.
Sorry you got some bootlickers in here, but hey at least you know who to block. And helps the rest of us who don't want anything to do with them. Can't believe how mad people get when they are told to stop killing black people
Your worry about things that will be replaced over lives says a lot
BLM
While I do see why some people have negative views on BLM protests, I believe that there is a lot of good people in the BLM movement and that their intentions are to help stop racism.
Treating the group like a terrorist organization and threatening military action is NOT going to fix the issues of racism that have been brought to light regarding BLM. In fact, I believe it'll escalate the issue further and that's probably not going go over well.
I prefer solutions, not escalations.
I'm not going to argue you or unfollow you on this honestly. Keep doing you.