You got a backup drive someplace in case you need to restore stuff?

You could always consider taking commissions to help pay for the new rig, you know. Hee heee hee eheeee!

I need to look into that , never made one even when thats highly recomended. I got an external HD somewhere, so gotta see whats on there and how mutch space i have, tough probably less then all of this.

Thats the master plan in the future, get a better rig, game my life away for a while, get a big ass digital drawing tablet/screen, take commishes to eventually pay it all off. Or look if i improve with blender and doe like 3d bust shot or someting. Or instead of those , wall mounted trophees with feet sticking out.

Buy yourself a new large capacity external drive. 8TB drives should cost $200 or less, and run a backup utility once every few weeks like Macrium Reflect. They have a free version. It makes bit-for-bit copies of your data and you can use the images it creates to completely rebuild a dead drive or restore individual files.

If ya want recommendations for tablets, Huion / Gaomon make large drawing tablets for less than half what Wacom charges. Products are very good for the price.

Take commissions! I want one from you!

Sounds like a good back up plan.

Yea am looking into it, huion seems good , other one is new and i also have xp-pen and i think one more to look at. Thing is of all these tablets you just have to go for it and get one as it always depends on yourself to see if it's good or not. All these revieuws are great and all but am only gonna be able to see how good it is once i get one.

Oh boy that line is gonna be loooooooooong.

I did build a ryzen pc about 1-2 years ago with a focus on 3D stuff and games. Though a lot of what I researched might be kinda outdated at this point. Still here is the list of components I got and the general cost.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X

GPU: MSI AMD Radeon RX 470 Gaming X 8GB GDDR5 (This one I already had. I will need to upgrade in the future when I start doing more intense stuff in blender or such but for now it suits my needs pretty well and next worth upgrade is very expensive)

RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32Gb (two sets of 16). If I had to say, I think there is not a huge difference between 2 and 4 sticks since they mainly operate on two channels but I can't say for sure. I got 2 so i'm able to upgrade to 64gb in the future if I need to.

Cooler: AMD Wraith Prism (default one that comes with the cpu which in this specific case is a pretty good one for the ryzen 7)

Motherboard: ASUS TUF Gaming X570-PLUS

PSU: Cooler Master B600 (This one I also had already. After checking on some calculators online, I came to the conclusion that it was more than enough even if I ever decided to add several screens or other upgrades)

Storage 1: SSD Kingston A2000 500MB (for system and some selected games/programs)
Then I also have several HDDs which I already had for regular storage.

The whole cost (not counting GPU and PSU) was around 900€ if I remember correctly. I could have budget to go a bit higher if I wanted but after a lot of research I decided to stay at this cause the upgrades from here were extremly costy and the improvement was mediocre for such a cost.

Feel free to ask if you are curious about some of my picks and I can try to explain why I choose them in my case (though again, market and prices might have changed since)

Well that seems like a good one. I took what i tought whas more prime tough a bit costly. Now am not a biiig spender either but if i want some quality i do need to throw some cash at it. Gonna need to see what my end total is with this. I rather try this as i've seen builds that you can buy with something near what am trying to get for close to 3-4K The shitty thing is i can't see all the components like the MB is mostly not given. Plus it's been a while since i bought one but am shure it comes with all sorts of software i realy don't need or even whant.
Am also still a win7 user so win10 is gonna get getting used to.

Yea i think my 850W is too mutch for it but IF am gonna try and take the TI version or if this gpu goes kaput aswel after a while it won't hurt to have more. I also whas thinking of placing my old 60HZ screen in it so i have 2 screen but i could also just run 2 pc's to look up stuff and play vids in the bg and sutch.

Different comment here to keep it more organized.

I wanted to give a warning about going with a B550 motherboard in case you are not aware. (and the reason I ended going for a x570 even if it was a bit overkill for my build).

B550 motherboards (and any that is not x570 basically) have a old bios build in and it is neccesary to update it in order to work with the new CPUs.

Here is the problem though. To update the bios you need to boot up the computer but computer won't even start up with the old bios unless you have a compatible CPU. If you happen to have a older AMD CPU that is compatible or can borrow it, then you are probably fine. But if you don't, well the options are pretty much these:

1. Some stores offer to update the bios before sending the motherboard, however they will charge you for that (usually between 15-20€ in my experience) and there is the problem that if something happens in the future and you are forced to reset the bios, it will reset to the older one and you are stuck having to look for a way to update it again (is not super common but sometimes bios could break/glitch out after a heavy crash or such).

2. Apparently you can contact AMD directly and they will lend you a old/basic CPU for you to update and then return to them. This process is totally free of charge for you, however it is quite slow as you need to wait for the motherboard to arrive and then send a photo of its serial number and likely wait several days until they send the CPU. It also has the same problem as the previous option in the sense that if something happens to the bios in the future, you are stuck looking for a way to update.

3. Buy a motherboard with support for updating the bios through a USB port/pendrive. I believe it is call Flash Bios or so. Problem is, the models with this feature are very few and more often than not pretty costy and overkill.

This is the reason for why I went for a x570 myself, to avoid all that crap as I had no access to older AMD CPUs. Worth mentioning that for what I remember, if you going all the way in with a Ryzen 9 then x570 was quite recomended (not needed) but recomended. Though this is just a general thing.

Ah thats handy indeed.

I have seen this issue, the model i looked up for this seems to have a bio flashback so this should be easely resolved if this also applys to new ones as the mb and cpu are both brand spanking new. I have to check but seeing this is a V2 ,it might have already been updated to that.

I can't excactly remember why i whas recomended a B550 as i went for an X570 Gigabyte gaming X myself and wasent that more expensive in my eyes then a B550.
The vids on the net here and there of builders also had B550's so it can't be that bad. I think that for my wish of a gaming/3D rig it wasen't needed as am not gonna overclock anything and keep it at stock values. Or putting a secondary GPU in.
Haven't had many say i should go for a X570.

Welp, it seems i can't get and AMD R9 5900X and they haven't orderd new ones either. Plus i've been seeing some vids where the chips are havving lots of dead ones AND usb troubles. Would an I9 10900K be good for a replacment??

Hmmm to be honest I can't say much on that one. Basically because the I9 10900k was yet to be released when I build mine so I don't recall any comparisons out there.

I was going to leave you a couple of suggestions in case that the final price was a bit too much and you wanted to reduce the costs without sacrificing too much and one of those suggestions had to do with the CPU so here it goes.

I actually compared the Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 9 a whole lot when making mine and ended going with the Ryzen 7 cause I felt that it was enough and the price would sky rocket if I went for the 9.

First of all, it is important to consider what are you looking to do with the PC as in might change things a bit. As a general thing, it seemed like Ryzen series were a bit more efficient with 3D works while the Intel i series were a bit better with video games (though less of a difference for this)

If you are mainly interested is gaming what I saw on my research is that a Ryzen 9 or i9 (the older series, not the 10900k) are actually overkill and not needed unless you intend to game in a serious/nearly profesional way in which you may want to have over 300-400 fps on shooters or maybe if you intend on doing some crazy things like playing open world demanding games at 4k perhaps. Obviously a Ryzen 9/i9 will be an upgrade but a Ryzen 7 should be plenty for that even in the future if paired with a good GPU.

When it comes to 3D works things are a bit different cause unlike games which have a point in which you can't get any better, in 3D works there is always room for better perfomance, less render times, faster realtime render/view, etc. And even good computers can struggle with some stuff so you normally want as much as you can have. Here was the thing for me though. While the ryzen 9 had some decent improvements over the 7, it was not an insane upgrade. So I have the feel that if your work load is so demanding that the Ryzen 7 is going to run short, the 9 is not really going to fix the issue but just making it somewhat less annoying. And the thing was that back in the day, Ryzen 7 was I think around 350€ while the Ryzen 9 was around 650€, that plus added cost for cooling system which probably would go 50-80€ (Ryzen 7 would work totally fine with the stock cooler since it was the same one packed for the Ryzen 9 so it was actually pretty good pick for the Ryzen 7 even as far as being able overclok some with it if desired)

Again, 1-2 years old info and needs to be check. Mainly saying it so you keep it in mind in case there is a chance the Ryzen 7 suits your needs here.

Yea i changed my mind again XD Well thats to say , i tried to get the R9 but they coulden't get is ( surpriiiise ) so he seller proposed the intel one. Now Am not a very picky one but i honestly wanted to try the R9 as many say it's da best. Now ofcourse as you metioned intel needs a diff MB and i spend too mutch time changing to whatever that is. So the way i see it. Get a R7 witch one i need to check but IF finally the 9 is available at least i have the MB already. That with hopefully a RTX 3080oc will get the job done.

I honestly believe that any of the R7 should be pretty good for a long time.

About which one to get. For the R7 3000x series I would specifically recomend getting the 3700x and not the 3800x. Price used to be about 20-40 difference but the real reason is that the 3800x improvement seemed to be a merely 1-2% at most on tests and it comes with some draw backs. Namely, a considerably higher power consumption and higher temperatures. A lot of people commented that it just felt like a 3700X but overcloked by default. So definitely not worth paying extra (Even at the same price I might still go for the 3700x to be honest)

For the R7 5000x series I don't really know much as it was not around back in the day. I did a quick check and they don't seem to have a huge difference but the price difference is not that crazy neither (about 140€)

Considering the high budget you going for (and brief info I saw online) I would probably look into the 5000X and get that unless the differences are really too minimal or they seem less reliable than 3700x. Also look for some info about cooling. Cause if the 5000X are on the same temperatures line as the 3700x then you can go with the stock cooler (assuming they give the same)

From the short time i looked into it the R7 5800X doesen't come with stock cooler and here and there it seems this one heats up more. It's difficult to get a real awnser, some say it's the best besides the 9 a,d others think it's garbage. Plus i whas thinking , is it worth the price?? Like do i whant to spend like €400+ on a chip while meaby i could get the 9 a few weeks later for even more €??

If it comes without stock cooler then the price differene is more considerable.

That depends on if you can wait or not. If you are able maybe it is worth waiting a bit to see if you can get the 9 if you want that. Getting any R7 in general for just a couple of months seems like quite a waste. If you intend on upgrading to R9 in the near future though, absolutely go for the R7 3700x. It is already tested to work well, way cheaper and is totally more than enough if you planning on upgrading in the near future. (I got it even for a long lasting build so).

The other money saving thing I would look into are the M.2.

I actually had to choose between the same Samsung Evo you getting (500mb in my case) and the Kingston I got. There was a considerable price difference, I think the Kingston was around 80€ while the Samsung was around 120-130€. There was only two differences though

1. The speed, which if I remember somewhat correctly, the Kingston was around 3300 and the Samsung was around 4200 (or something equivalent). However, like we mention before the speed differences are pretty small even compared with a sata one with 500 write/read speed and it has diminising returns so those 1000 extra were actually not a big thing.

2. The max amount of data that can be written in the unit. SSDs have a physical limit after which you can't keep writting or re-writting more info in them. They won't break nor anything but basically they become a read only device. And here was the huge difference. The kingston had about 150 TB while the Samsung had around 600 TB. Which sounds really cool on paper but after some research, it seems like for a regular use, is unlikely that the 150 TB one reachs the limit in less than 15 years (probably more but going a bit towards the minimum). Which is more than enough. Only case in which I think the Samsung would be ok is if you were to make a server or something on those lines that would be writting data constantly and daily. In that case, the extra max writing might be good to have just in case and also that extra bit of speed might be more meaningful.

Here is the last thing though. If it was a decision between a Samsung Evo which is a very good brand and a not too popular brand, then by all means I would not recomend to try saving money in exchange for picking a unreliable brand. The thing in this case is that Kingston is actually a very old and good brand (even if I don't see people talk that much of it in these times).

So that is something I would keep in mind that could save you quite some money depending on the offerts you can find.

Oh small correction. When I say SSDs have a limit for written stuff, that also includes the M.2 units.

You should have seen my first pick, it whas waaaaaaaay over for shure, hence the downgrade to 970 evo.

Yea read something about it but honsetly i've been using a SATA SSD of 60GB for years so am not worried about those getting too full. By the time they might be half way i'll probably get a new one by then.

Yeah that is pretty much what I meant. Any that you pick should have more than enough. Just make sure they are not charging you a lot of money for one that was a specially high max.

Also I assume you already are aware but never hurts to be sure. If you decide to go with a Intel, you need to check for a Intel compatible Motherboard

Oh also. Regarding PCIe 3.0 and 4.0 since I saw you mentioning this on the Storage section.

4.0 is only compatible with x570 motherboards. B550 only support up to 3.0.

Also for what I saw (remember this is 1-2 years old info) 4.0 devices are just not worth it at all at the moment. They are extremely expensive and the perfomance difference is going to be very little (don't be fooled by the numbers on paper cause those differ a lot from actual perfomance)

As an example. I saw a test where 3-4 persons tried to boot up the system and different programs/games on 3 identical PCs.
one with Sata SSD
one with M.2 3.0 SSD (which has like 4 times or more the speed of the sata one)
and one with M.2 4.0 SSD.

They did the test without knowing which pc was which and then tried to guess them. End votes were all over the place, meaning nobody truly noticed a difference even from the older Sata which I think had a speed around 500. (and is worth mentioning that these were tech enthusiasts). I also saw some perfomance comparisons which seem to back up this too.
This does not mean there is no different between them, but just an example that perfomance differences can be faaaaar smaller than you would imagine by looking at the numbers on paper.

Well it seems the B550 has one Pcie 4.0 and the rest is 3.0 so it should work with one GPU and one M.2 slot. As am not gonna upgrade in another 7-8 years i don't think am using that second slot. If i did mess up and listend to the wrong person then am screwed and probably getting an X570. The only things that happend in my years with this rig whas the GPU went kapoef , i screwed up something with the os and had to reinstall aaand needed more storage. So i don't realy change a lot on the rig.

Indeed , i saw a vid aswel where the times of everything besides a HDD where veeeery minimal. Some where faster on one game , others on another. I could technically just get a hugge SSD Sata and be done with it. On a blender site however i did see a graph where Nvme whas a ton faster but that might be just for work loads and not games.

https://www.cgdirector.com/wp-conte.....116_151436.jpg

So am just gonna use the M.2 slot for the windows and the rest for well the rest and a huuuge HDD to get any other files on it. If i need more well i still have a second M2 slot :) Plus the case had like 3 spots for sata SSD so even moar storage. I've been living on a 60GB ssd for years and rest HDD, works perfectly.

Oh I see interesting. That is probably a new thing. I guess they are starting to put some Pcie 4.0 on the newer B550 models too now.

And yeah, on all ends keep in mind that gaming is actually far lower demandant than any 3D programs or such. You actually don't need that much of a beefy PC to get 60 fps and good loading times on any current or near future games.