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So how do we feel about Musk buying Twitter?
3 years ago
The last few years, I've generally avoided discussing politics or anything even vaguely politically related but NGL, I am very curious to hear people's thoughts on this one. It's kind of a big deal. Or seems so anyway. Thoughts?
So, it's certainly an awful reminder of how rich people would rather control the narrative than actually do any good for society, but ultimately barely worth getting worked up over.
The sewage now owns the sewer.
Unfortunately, I'm unsure of his future!🤔 The only way we can think of, it's hope for the best for the right choice that they sold it to him.
Right now it's just a cesspool for SJWs and the Diversity, Inclusion and Equity cultists. Despite common belief, more voices always equals less radicalization, and when unregulated most forums like Twitter tend to level off and become relatively sane. The old joke that an unregulated internet is conservative has a lot of merits.
That being said, there's a good chance that the board or powerful shareholders will try to block it. It's only an informal agreement at the moment and it may take as long as 3-6 months for a buyout of this nature to finalize. A lot can happen between then and now, so best to just sit back, relax and wait.
Ugh... So you are saying that social justice, diversity, and inclusion are bad things? If so, you have chosen the wrong fandom.
The only people who are not currently "free to speak" on Twitter are the far-right, neo-nazis, Q-anons, homo- and transphobes, Trump and his worshippers, and so on. And I don't want them back.
Are diversity and inclusion bad things? No. I'm fond of both of those things, and I actively try to include people of diverse backgrounds in my projects and daily life because I'm just a nice guy. Forcing people to act the way you want to is a different thing entirely...
Equity is a bad thing, because in the overall sociopolitical context that most SJWs use it, that means taking something (wealth, land, whatever) from one group and giving it to another and that's theft. A different argument best saved for another day.
Are the people who claim to believe in those aforementioned things, and who so loudly proclaim them on twitter, bad people? Yes.
These are the people that want to silence voices that disagree with them. These are the people who doxx women who oppose their viewpoints and leave them open to threats of violence. These are the people who racially segregate schools, are nearly all white, and tell everyone with brown skin that they're inferior to the privileged white people and need to be saved by other white people. These are the people that want to show depictions of sex acts to 1st, 2nd and 3rd graders as part of the curriculum and tell 7 year old girls who play with toy trucks that they're actually boys born in the wrong body, instead of letting her grow up and sort herself out. These are the people who actively tear down family structures in communities "of color", a phrase that always felt a little racist to me.
Lumping the fandom in with those types of people is disingenuous and insulting. Most of the people I have met are perfectly reasonable and sane, who just so happen to like anthropomorphic characters, as I do. Take people as they are, one and a time, and not proclaim them to be a part of some group. That's what I do.
I was raised in the 90s as a white boy in Detroit Michigan. I know more African Americans than I do Caucasians. I grew up in the era of colorblindness, and speaking from my own life experience, none of the aggression and overall nastiness that we see today was a problem before SJWs and the religion of wokeness (yes, it's a religion; it has all the rules and regulations and I've even seen their prayer circles) started forcing it down people's throats sometime around the mid-2010s.
Everyone has a right to a voice, even the neo-nazis and Q-anon types, both of who I also find to be quite distasteful. Letting people hear what they have to say allows them to form their own opinions and most people aren't that stupid. You proclaiming that they need to be silenced says that you don't trust your fellow man, or that you want control over them. Either way, that says a hell of a lot more about you than it does them...
In any case, if Musk buys Twitter and you don't like the changes, you can always build your own. :3
> Thinks forcing their social justice, diversity, and inclusion views on others is fine
> "I don't wanna see trump on my twitter feed"
Checks out!
Free speech is free, as long as it applies to only me...
I follow Elon a bit, mostly for Space-X news, and I tend to believe what he says. IT has rendered most of the "Elites" to be insincere in their beliefs, mostly looking for Narratives Control and looking for ways to disempower the middle and working classes. If certain banned people were to be able to regain their accounts and ability to post, I would be tempted to join. However, since most social media is a distraction, and I am easily distracted, I will probably continue to avoid it. Twitters "entertainment" is due to the battle royale nature of the platform. Do I need that? Probably not. I still welcome the purchase, because like Elon, I am a bit of a constitutional absolutist, and would love to see tech censorship to go away and bring back the internet as it was before 2012.
That said, I don’t think there is any way to fix social media. I left social media a long time ago realizing it’s an awful mind leech. It’s not the algorithm or the product that’s the problem…. It’s the people on it… and Musk can’t fix them, they have to fix themselves.
In other words, by Musk owning Twitter, he can manipulate the control of information, both false and true, to suit his needs. Granted, it's just one site, but it begs the question, just how much of our media resources can we truly trust to be impartial? Especially towards those who own them?
I'm ok with Musk working to usurp this sort of information control by a platform.
I've yet to see an impartial newspaper or other media source from any country or time period.
Next look at Google. They are going to implement a system to recommend "inclusive language" if they detect you type something considered offensive. They already manipualte their search results to benefit left wing sourcing or establishment sourcing. If it is a hot button issue like the Hunter Biden laptop story, they will suppress anything that doesn't go with their approved narrative except for the new york post which is almost as tabloid, in my opinion, as the national enquirer.
The Left's "Billionaires and Millionaires" have already been manipulating Society's perceptions, in context to internet culture and access to information, for decades. Musk isn't even right wing. He views himself as centrist.
It will be the end of the year before it happens, until then it's just drama that's as effective as spinning one's wheels.
With Musk at the helm, it won't get worse. Might actually become better because he's a free speech absolutist.
The reason why twitter is a toxic cesspool is due to forcing people to be brief.
And brevity does not allow people to discuss. Just to show emotions.
And emotions are easily misunderstood if one cannot disuss them.
To show private emotions publicly is to ensure miscommunication happens.
And miscommunication is easily ascribed to "this kind of people hate my kind of people". Leading to polarization.
Like it reduces what you can express to dog barks in the night.
Clearly a bot.
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[Error: False Logic Detected in Line 3874: "And I'm totally not a Bot!"]
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😂💖👍💯
You were trolling poverty advocacy groups and/or aiding Rebel Media in some slanted scumbaggery, weren't you?
I see maybe four of them getting any pushback, -two of them being since you made this comment- and yours is the only one I would even remotely term an attack.
Sad!
https://twitter.com/CBC180
Just protected, and have been for several years. Probably around the same time the radio show stopped existing.
Will he make it better? No. Will he make it worse? Maybe. Will he make it easier for alt-right sympathies to be expressed? Probably.
I don't doubt that Twitter has an annoyingly large impact on the world but I don't think its destruction will spell doom for democracy.
Twitter, as much as i dont like it, has become the global marketplace for all sorts of topics and international conversations.
It should not be owned by anyone with monetary gain as their only aim as this will always be to the detriment of free speech or any form of morality.
I'm on best Twitter... Graphics Twitter. Everyone is always calling it a cesspool, blah blah blah. But it's amazing how easy it was to nullify 95% of the negativity by setting my location to Japan (no more US politics I didn't want to know about to begin with! :D) and almost exclusively following people that are either A) doing computer graphics research or B) creating indie games. I have a few exceptions, like Chicken Nugget but... they like... release cute animations.
Consequently, my Twitter experience seems to be a lot different then most people. Given it's nature, it would be really difficult for Musk to screw up my sector of Twitter. I do worry about the fandom on Twitter, which is a wider thing, mostly because I've heard he leans right and the right tends to come down socially on sexual things and demoting it from being "speech". The biggest problem for freedom of expression that I notice is that some "free speech" advocates are happy claim they support all speech and then just redefine speech they dislike as "obscenity" and ergo, illegal. Then speech isn't really free, it's just speech that owner happens to agree with.
I don't know what Musk will decide, but with the privatization of Twitter, that will be completely under Musk's control.
Granted, Twitter has been flirting with the idea of eliminating all sexual content for a while. People have been concerned it's coming down the pipeline to make payment processors happy. Visa and Mastercard were felt to be inclined to want to force the company to make decisions it wouldn't normally do. So... If Musk does this, he might be doing what was going to happen inevitably. Or maybe he really is a free speech absolutist and he'll end up supporting human sexuality on the web.
We will have to see.
https://twitter.com/timmainsson/sta.....liILJ7cDO3X5gw
my ass
I didn't think it did, but what do I know lol
twitter also has ads revenue so if melon lets every extremists back maybe he would see the number go down which he dislikes more than anything.
or he is just uses this for some PR bullsht
who knows
otherwise i stay on twitter as long as people do the same, i cant list ANY site that hasnt have rightwing/pedo/zoo/etc mods/leader/owner/etc
I think Elon Musk will sow further chaos on that hellsite known as Twitter, because the way to make money on social media (like Zuck found out) is by increasing engagement, which means making everyone angry at each other. It'll be annoying because he'll throw his resources fighting anyone who thinks that's a bad idea, and he has a legion of cult-like worshipers to follow through his commands.
That said I also think Twitter will remain a money sink and Musk will have to jump ship at a loss at some point. Facebook and Netflix are in decline, and it's clear people are kinda sick about this current iteration of social media.
I for one am glad I am not on that Twitter hellsite and instead ranting about it on this rickety half-dead site lol. I feel there's less risk with the incompetency in how FA is run.
And looking through the comments here, it's even more concerning that there are furries celebrating less protection against hate speech. Several people seem to be thrilled that Twitter users that push for diversity and inclusion will be pushed out... what the actual fuck is wrong with y'all, rooting for LESS support for minorites????
Fun fact: Telegram, Discord, are both owned by billionaires as well. Tumblr belongs to a megacorp.
That's not liable to happen because even trolls are datapoints for the marketing department in selling the platform for ad revenue.
It's not a user friendly platform either, if you want to check on someone to make sure they're still, err, ambulatory, or at least breathing, you get spammed about signing in.
It's good the way it is.
But to be honest? I've never cared about Twitter one way or another, and that's not about to change. The site's a lost cause, and I think it's been a benefit to my mental health to have stayed far, far away from it. So I'll probably sit back and derive amusement from the inevitable fallout.
It's long been considered one of the most hostile websites there is, and it has only become even worse since the Tumblr exodus for all the reasons JoeSanchez and Pojodan have described. Further, Musk is a leech, his worshippers are so bloody dumb it's a wonder they can string five words together, and he's not a champion of anything except showing the world how out of touch with reality he is.
He may claim to be all for free speech, but the cynic within me thinks this may amount to the kind of 'free speech' a repressive regime allows - only the speech that they like to hear. Even if this doesn't turn out to be the case, what is free speech worth on a website like Twitter? With this sort of approach, this takeover will no doubt be the final nail in its coffin. Additionally, if the past two years has taught us anything, it's that, for the reasons Lusyndra has detailed, there are some people who simply do not deserve to have the right to free speech they're lucky to have.
Another point that's been raised, and which I made a comment about on another journal, is this: people have been concerned about it banning porn. It's baffling how anyone could think it's an appropriate website to upload artwork on to begin with. I've never done it, and I've warned my friends against doing it. It was not designed as an art website, isn't specially catered for our community like FA, Weasyl, SoFurry and all the rest are, and given the kind of people who call Twitter home, content makers who post there are asking to be torn to shreds. It's happened so many times before, and no doubt will again.
When Twitter falls, it'll be good riddance to bad rubbish.
2.) Even if it does go through, Twitter is not going to become the "free speech" bastion that turd-brains on the internet think it will. Musk is taking on a lot of debt to fund acquiring Twitter, more than Twitter will be able to pay off as is. Twitter will have to dramatically increase its profitability to do begin to break even for Musk, and the only way social media makes money is through advertising, which means keeping advertisers happy, and that means regulating content well beyond what is "free speech." If you see any change at all, it will be even more stringent rules.
In short, Musk is a fuckhead who is thriving off the attention he's getting right now.
Most of his success is actually just using basic supply line shit we've known for thousands of years. He succeeds purely because he is an actual CEO instead of a highly advanced grifter, it's literally the lowest bar possible and yet everyone's impressed that he cleared it.
Muskie has the largest and second most odious Dunning-Kruger cult I've ever seen. He's not as stupid as Trump, but he has so much money to throw around that he has no need for competence; he just brute-forces his way into whatever libertarian pipe dream strikes his fancy. If facts and good sense don't agree with his whims, he just paints over them with hype and fraud. He shares Trump's subhuman level of morality and integrity, and holds the same surreal degree of groundless narcissism. He has set back EV technology through fraud and incompetence, he has dragged his libertarianism into space on rockets of frivolous design, he has sold people on a mass transit system whose only saving grace before he plagiarized it from Ray Bradbury was that it was fictional, and he has contributed nothing whatsoever to the betterment of the world or its people. He's inept garbage who was born with a platinum spoon in his mouth. He's Cave Johnson held aloft on a cloud of effectively infinite financing and unwarranted adulation, and if Earth has any luck he will snort moon dust for a lark just because he can some time this year, and similarly die of moon cancer afterwards (which is not actually a thing so far as we're aware, but at least I'm willing to acknowledge the difference between science and sci-fi).
That being said, the world would be better off without Twitter in any case. To use it like a gallery is like tossing your work into a river and watching it drift off downstream, to be lost beneath a sea of shitposts. From a social perspective it is the embodiment and enshrinement of mob mentality, with zero effective checks on runaway lies or the damage they cause. It fuels vanity and superficiality. Made to connect, instead it isolates us in socio-emotional bird cages and leaves us fascinated with 'self'. It makes cynicism a trait for success. Maybe Muskie will make Twitter snort moon dust too...
</radical leftist tirade>
What I'd really like to see is some kind of rule against running for office simply because you have a fuckton of money and want to buy a political career to make more money and power.
Maybe a rule against spending more money than provided for your campaign. Everyone gets the same. Hard limit.
I'm not sure how you would implement anything like this, but waiting for the politicians to pass laws to regulate themselves sure ain't it.
Musk has a long track record of doing this stuff over and over. He's disparaged, retaliated against, and fired employees at all his other companies, and even got himself forced out of being Tesla's CEO because he couldn't keep his mouth under control. While he has some solid engineering chops his social engineering skills are just as equally lacking. I'm not sure the current situation with him owning Twitter is tenable in the long run, something will change either very shortly, or within a year I figure.
Maybe people will finally log the fuck off and do something else instead of mainlining mind-poison right into their eyeballs lol
Now that you pointed it out, I am also pleasantly surprised. I thought people just hadn't had enough time to start a fight, but maybe it's just that here we have more time to reflect on what we say instead of having an app designed to get people exposed to the worst of each other, and encouraged to continue engaging in that way with everything.
I want to. God, part of me, really fucking wants to. But ultimately... for what? The people that seem to believe getting blocked for stating their shitty ass opinion is being oppressed and/or censored probably won't adjust their viewpoint. If anything, they're probably looking for fights, since that is what certain wings of internet culture have trained them to do. Look for fights, and the person that gives up first loses. Twitter just made this worse.
Just block them and mute and move on
I rather draw or read a book than argue with totally immature people
From my perspective, Twitter is very much designed to get out of it what you put into it. If all you do is act like a bitch and get into fights, then the algorithm is going to show you more fights and more things to bitch about. As someone who doesn't really do that, I don't run into it that often, and generally find the site to be enjoyable. That said, it's not really designed for a lot of what it's now being used for (art, politics, etc.) and that's an issue in and of itself, but I'd hardly condemn the entire platform for that.
Not that twitter will improve. Hah! Oh that's never happening. I'm hoping this might help get the furry community OFF that hellsite and someplace else.
also 0 patience for conservatives and "enlightened centrists" anymore
fucking NONE
that left almost a decade ago
So, thoughts. If I had read this thread on Twitter I'd already be in deep confinement, glowing in the dark from the sheer radioactivity of all the bullshit I'd have read in less than one minute. But I'm reading it here and I remain unchernobyl'd.
Which brings me to my opinion. I personally don't care very much, as I don't have a Twitter account, I just get exposed to that website from people's links, and they're generally unpleasant "based takes" from all colors and beliefs, but unified by a single common cause: fuckshittery.
On the purchase itself: this was a vanity purchase for Musk. He wants to be seen, and is buying his favorite social network as a way to say "look at me!", wants to be seen as a cool guy, a savior of humanity. Truly living the techbro's dream.
I don't think much will change. He will continue to do market manipulation through his Tweets, continue to enjoy the fact that free speech is freer for those at the top, and probably not really do much about the platform (if not make it worse). Some have mentioned seeing this as buying a social media platform as a way to control the narrative, which, yeah that might be part of it, but for someone like Musk, I think the vanity purchase part was the main driver.
It's nice to have left for a place where people aren't yelling at each other for attention over the algorithm, and where my instance mod or I can block the alt-right, TERFs, and nft shills an instance at a time, rather than each person having to block each person.
To throw my own thoughts onto the pile: I've grown sour on Twitter. It keeps changing shit to handcuff people to the platform to shove more ads into eyeballs, and even when it bans people doing toxic shit, it basically encourages people running right up and in some cases, slightly over the line in a childish "I'm not touching you!" way to drive "engagement" and keep people on the site to doom scroll. On the rare occasion that I log in, I have to fix it so it's not showing me "best tweets first" and goes back to a modicum of tweets as they happen. Maybe Twitter could have been nice as a concept before, but whatever it is now... like, I honestly wish that the artist that are posting there regularly stop and go back to FA. Because as shit as FA is, it is at least made to be a gallery site. So yeah, I'm not big on Twitter to begin with.
But then there's the chucklefuck who bought it. The self-styled "free speech absolutist" who slurred a guy rescuing kids as a pedo because said guy called out Musk for not being terribly helpful to rescue those kids his own self. Or how he tried to buy off a dude that made something that tracks Musk's private plane. Musk dishes it out but cannot take it, and he feels like a giant asshole has bought up the place where assholes are trying to congregate to make it safe for more assholes. I will not be surprised that, the moment the sale goes through and Musk gains full control, he'll reinstate Trump because "freeze peach" even though Twitter finally fucking banned him after setting a fucking mob on the seat of the US government.
The best possible outcome is that whatever delicate balance that Twitter had in having enough assholes on there to keep decent folks enraged collapses because Musk just brings back all the assholes and the folks that the assholes are there to troll leave en masse. Maybe Twitter will become another Tumblr: where the people that cling to the platform do it while openly hating the platform, and it becomes weird and shitposty again.
FINALLY, someone said it!
I don't know you, but I think I like you! :)
Was tempted to comment myself, but I don't even see the point of interacting with these people any more as I already know their programming back-to-front and inside-out and could probably quote what they're about to say even before they speak, and also I've been somewhat incapacitated due to my severe allergy for 4chan buzzwords flaring up after reading all these comments!
I was on Twitter once, many years ago when it first started out (the relatively innocent days!) Although even then I never used my real identity on there! I was just posting as a character I'd created for a story idea then. (As far as I know, that account still exists, but I'm permanently locked out of it due to losing my password, and being unable to access the site due to refusing to disable my script-blocker and spyware filters). Then again, I'm actually quite glad I can't get on it. I don't feel like I'm missing anything important, just the odd touch of social engineering and being profiled like a product for sale...
So yeah, I'm not on Twitter, and I really couldn't care less what Musk does to it.
Personally, I wouldn't really care if it burned to the ground, in fact I might see that as a positive thing. Maybe it would be replaced by something that didn't kiss the collective asses of the marketing companies and rush to sell its own users to them. But hey, I have these silly utopian fantasies sometimes...
...i look at it like this: we already have an epidemic of mental illness (which is largely spurned-on, in part, due to the rampant lead poisoning which apparently is world-wide?); anyone who can't, appropriately, deal with twitter / social media in the present time, already were lost causes anyway
it's really only for them, that this musk takeöver probably immediately-matters, bobbie-j; though, true enough: the rest of us "normies" / "semi-normies" are gonna be dealing with the fallout, eventually
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then again: it might serve as a nominal consolation for us — that the small-time idiots are gonna go back on to the twitter to boldly air out their Ill Intentions;
a boldness which can allow for others to make note of and then hopefully-counteract before execution
i wish i could say "i don't care," fully
i'll have to see what elon allows (and disallows)
at the end of the day, twitter still is a private entity; so its C-Suites have no obligation to do anything they don't want (within reason-of-legality) on their platform
if they don't want to ban *rump, then so be it
who knows?
perhaps this shall be the start of the Universal Cataclysm you've heralded, bobbie-j
— rex
Given the lack of information, everyone is just running on rumor and / or speculation at this point.
There is exactly one thing I can think of off the top of my head he has discussed doing that might be detrimental. That being user verification via ID.
Basically, you would have to provide a valid ID to log into Twitter. This obliterates the bot army right off the bat. It also prevents those who are under-age ( lacking of ID ) from logging in.
The big downside here is most folks who do adult artwork, stories or are even adult celebrities probably don't want their real names in a database to be abused / disclosed at some future date. So I can see where many of those folks would refrain from sticking around.
I don't use Twitter for anything other than viewing others artwork and I try to avoid all the drama-topics like the plague.
Musk claims to be a "Free speech absolutist", but he censors his workers and customers. His factory is plagued with racism. He's an arrogant, narcissistic jerk. This probably doesn't bode well for his having a positive influence. Considering how damaging the hate speech on the platform has already been, if he actually enacts his vision of "Free speech absolutism" it will just lead to an even greater proliferation of hate, disinformation, and trolling.
It will be interesting to see what effect he has on the platform. I suspect it won't be good. But hey, if he runs it into the ground it wouldn't be the worst thing. Surveillance capitalism needs to die anyway.
That being said, it remains to be seen if the deal goes through, and if it does, there are a lot of factors that will bear on how much influence he and his proposed ideas might actually end up having. He also has a couple of other businesses that are liable to be more important and take up most of his time already.
Furthermore, he's the richest man in the world and an utterly brilliant businessman. Any politics aside, he could probably improve the platform in creative ways that no one else can yet think of.
Remember: this is the guy who did more for space exploration in ten years than NASA did in sixty.
Sometimes he does very smart things and sometimes he does very stupid things. His business success is in part due to his smart side, yes, but also in great parts due to having been born to wealth as well as some sheer luck. He did some things in the past that significantly hurt his businesses, sometimes to the point that his companies had to issue statements that Elon's opinions do not reflect the company values, and shareholders had to threaten him and demanded that his Twitter activity should be overseen by someone to prevent him causing more financial disasters.
Overall, things could go any number of ways from very bad to very good, and only time will tell.
Either way, he is still my favorite African American
Watch closely how Elon Musk runs twitter, and what it's like to "live" there. This will tell you how he would run his Mars Colony (or any other venture), and how it would be like to live there. (From what I've heard of working conditions at Tesla/SpaceX, not great.)
But if the fact one man can just buy a giant social media corporation on a whim doesn't give you pause...
Limits to individual power when?
Musk has said some stupid things. He's everyone's private fantasy of when they'd do with that kind of money made horribly real, but what he's done to advance space travel, and the electric car has more than made up for a few intemperate tweets. Wealthy people purchasing their own personal soapbox is nothing new, and I guess we'll see how much Mr. Musk believes in free speech for other people. If it does actually become intolerable, it's not like there aren't any number of other platform that you can go to.
Given the drop in Tesla Stock Price (on the basis of the Twitter acquisition), and the fact he'd almost certainly have to SELL a lot of that to be able to execute the transaction, he might back out.
Breaking the offer would cost him about $1 billion in penalties.
BUT: the (presumed) recovery in tesla's stock price if he backs out MAKES him abut $40 Billion in value back. ...So he might well do just that.
Second: His Tweet Wednesday evening about Buying Coca-Cola to put the cocaine back in:
Not only would he never get the product past the FDA...
Coca-Cola is about 6 times the market cap of Twitter. So I don't think he's buying it regardless.
Third: IF he buys Twitter: IDGAF.
...I don't tweet, nor have an account there.
There are already some furs, userbase seems nice so far. 4,4 mio users
It is decentral and global + open source
As for Twitter, its a vapid place made up of sound bites. I liked Livejournal back in the day, you had room to expand on your thoughts and such. There was the share of drama, but at least you had room to write. But everyone seems to prefer vapid soundbites and here we are. I'm mainly using it for the art. I wish artists stuck mainly to galleries where you can see a saved feed of art rather than on twitter where you will only see the post if you are lucky with algorithm roulette, or you manually load up each artist one by one and scroll through all their sound bites and memes to find the art posts. So if twitter dies, I won't really shed much of a tear and Elon buying it certainly won't make it any better. But as Elon will learn, if he breaks things too much, people can and will vanish in a heartbeat. I remember the deaths of Liverjournal and Myspace and Tumblr, out like a candle the moment something shinier came along or the owners did something stupid.
Elon stans: don't bother, I do not care about your simping, senpai won't notice you defending him on some FA journal.
What if he wanted to spend it on buying kidnapped children, or rampantly destroying the environment, or just making life hard for everyone else who has less money than him?
I guess that's ok then too.
I have absolutely nothing to bring to the table that will help you.
Good luck getting through life and the real world with that self inflicted ignorance.
I can't be bothered caring enough to try and dismantle yours/the other person's posts any further.
Mind those rocks you're throwing now.
Glass houses and all that.
You made a ridiculously reductive black-and white statement. They replied with an obviously exaggerated example to make a point. I find it difficult to believe that you didn't understand what they were saying. You chose to ignore their point and insult them. This doesn't make your argument very convincing.
I simply shared my opinion the OP made, and then a few times over, after.
I see no value in trying to argue with people holding their minds closed. Waste of my time, and theirs.
You must get my permission before buying anything.
Ever.
See how utterly retarded that is?
Yes/No?
The idea is to not make things worse for everybody else with our actions, to try to think of the bigger consequences beyond "is it legal?" or "can I get away with it?". Back when lead started being added to gasoline, it was legal; we already knew it was a poison (from Roman times we know that lead is a poison), but the ones with the power to enact that decision did it anyway. They had the money, and it lead to this* https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal.....tudy-rcna19028
That's an extreme example, but it shows how something legal is still blatantly harmful and should NOT be done. This is why I hate the idea of "yeah, it's your money, do whatever you want with it"; I'd say, please think about it first. The more money, the more power, and the more important it is to think ahead of the consequences.
* I just noticed the pun when proofreading. I'll keep it.
I see everything Elon SAYS he's going to do with Twitter (ie, returning the concept of free speech), and erasing this evident bot campaign warping numbers, to be a gigantic step in the right direction.
You can hate on the dude and his stances all you like, I won't argue that. People have the right to make their own opinions.
How do I feel about the man (questionable) who claimed he would 'fix worldwide hunger' for 8 billion instead spending 41 or 42 billion to buy some social media site instead?
How do I feel about everyone getting excited over some heartless, soulless, money grubbing excuse for a human buying one of the platforms on which humanity goes to abandon all common sense, spread conspiracy theories, engage in virtual slapfights, and other mindless, pointless behavior?
...about the same as I feel about most things in the news recently. Can we get more art of an anthro Twitterbird, and less conversation about things I can't control and really don't care about either way? No offense, but... it doesn't matter which overblown billionaire owns Twitter. Because it's going to be SOME overblown billionaire. None of us who are supposed to be 'the people' are ever going to own something like that, control it, and if we did, we'd BECOME an overblown billionaire and the money would warp our view of reality.
So TL;DR? Don't care; never used it; when Musk turns from 'a billionaire' into 'a normal person' then maybe I'll care about him.
We don't know. All we can do right now is wait and see. It's too early to conclude anything.
That said, I acknowledge certain worries, and that an eccentric billionaire, known for doing crazy and stupid things and sometimes having absolutely ridiculous takes and irresponsible actions being able to simply buy a platform that a lot of people rely on to be heard is a possibly dangerous thing. My personal worry is that in the name of "free speech" he will relax rules too much and thus allow the return of certain toxic and hateful people who shouldn't be allowed back. But as said, right now all we can do is wait and see.
https://kpfa.org/program/igd/. It's the 4/29 broadcast, the section on Twitter starts at around 24:00.
That's essentially what Twitter is for keyboard warriors XD
I like to think it will improve with Elons influence. Maybe I'll rejoin if it does. But who knows, I think it went beyond the point of no return a while back, lol
Hearing that the fattest fly has landed on the shit-pile isn't terribly surprising to me, and it certainly won't improve anything there.
Twitter is, at it's core, a digital battleground for camps of the righteous. Extremists of both ilk trying to justify their group's personal hatreds and agendas by trying to wring tenuous fabrications into what they believe is a 'truth'. People who want to be right, instead of informed. And everyone else is caught in the middle posting cat pictures and hoping they don't get landed on by some deeply disturbed individual.
Musk can have it. He can gorge the site and bring all of his pale, paste-huffing, consequence loathing, suit-draped corpses to the money-party that he likes. They can have a big ol' Donny Brook with the equally demented hoards of celebrities that pretend they speak 'for the people' from disconnected ivory towers.
Other than posting the odd piece of art there that gets eaten by the algorithm, and meeting a few good beans, the site has done nothing but rot my mental health with a stream of shrieking humanity and 'trends' showing gleeful brutality that at one point had me convinced we didn't deserve to exist as a species. It's a site that makes you utterly misanthropic while parading as 'social'.
I'll likely just dust my little corner of that site now. I'm not sure I want any of my data falling into the clammy hands of a man who's known to steal ideas, and utterly detests creative people. I doubt I'll migrate anywhere else either, as the art I produce isn't terribly interesting to people which I think is a good thing. I've found the little corners of the digital landscape I like to frequent, and the people I like to frequent it with.
I hope Musk and his obscenely rich bloatocrats have a fun shit-ball fight with the know-it-all kids from Berkley. I'll be off in a field of green shoving crayons into my sinuses :)
The only reason why I joined was because most of my furry friends left Live Journal and migrated to Twitter so I if I wanted to stay in touch then I had to go to twitter.
Now I never knew who the heck Musk was until a few years ago, but he sounds like every other rich person who has more money than they know what to do with it, and would rather do stunts for popularity with his resources than be a good person overall.