I have a question for you guys
14 years ago
What's your definition of a lesbian? And I mean you personally.
I ask because I've noticed that there seems to be a variety of opinions as to what makes someone gay exactly, but I've never actually had the chance to study the opinions comprehensively. While file surfing on my harddrive, I found one of my old rp characters' biographies in my documents folder. Under sexual orientation, I had labelled her Asexual, and she was. She was a very moody, bitchy person who really wanted nothing to do with anyone, the epitome of anti-social. x3 However, stuff happened, as it often does during roleplays, and after a month of playing her and a few threads, she ended up in something of a relationship with another girl. So, the admin of the site made me change her sexual orientation to "gay/lesbian"... but I didn't want to. I did anyway so I wouldn't get banned. x3 But mentally, I remember being put off a little bit.
So, in that situation, was my character a lesbian? I've always thought that she's not. "Lesbian" implies that one woman is sexually/physically attracted to other women. But Darko, my character, was not attracted to anyone or anything. She was a total beast in terms of personality and physical appearance (she was part of an elemental roleplay where one of the elements was called "beast" and essentially allowed your character to do things with certain animals, in Darko's case she could turn into a lioness, but at the start of the roleplay every character's skill in their element is very low so Darko was very terrible at controlling her beastial instincts and what not... typical werecritter concept here x3). She hated everyone and never even had sex with her so called girlfriend. I'm sure she would've if the opportunity had arisen, but only for her girl's sake. Poor thing was a hopeless romantic and longed to be close to Darko, so I bet my lioness, after much poking and prodding, would've sucked it up for the girl's sake.
But still. The point is... is she a lesbian for being romantically involved with someone of the same sex? Or is it completely dependent on physical attraction?
By the same extension, suppose someone is bi-sexual, and happens to be in a relationship with someone of the same sex. Does that make the person gay? And if so, does that mean they cease to be gay when the relationship ends?
I've always thought 'no' was the answer to this, but I'm curious about what other people think, as everyone on the roleplay seemed to disagree with me.
I ask because I've noticed that there seems to be a variety of opinions as to what makes someone gay exactly, but I've never actually had the chance to study the opinions comprehensively. While file surfing on my harddrive, I found one of my old rp characters' biographies in my documents folder. Under sexual orientation, I had labelled her Asexual, and she was. She was a very moody, bitchy person who really wanted nothing to do with anyone, the epitome of anti-social. x3 However, stuff happened, as it often does during roleplays, and after a month of playing her and a few threads, she ended up in something of a relationship with another girl. So, the admin of the site made me change her sexual orientation to "gay/lesbian"... but I didn't want to. I did anyway so I wouldn't get banned. x3 But mentally, I remember being put off a little bit.
So, in that situation, was my character a lesbian? I've always thought that she's not. "Lesbian" implies that one woman is sexually/physically attracted to other women. But Darko, my character, was not attracted to anyone or anything. She was a total beast in terms of personality and physical appearance (she was part of an elemental roleplay where one of the elements was called "beast" and essentially allowed your character to do things with certain animals, in Darko's case she could turn into a lioness, but at the start of the roleplay every character's skill in their element is very low so Darko was very terrible at controlling her beastial instincts and what not... typical werecritter concept here x3). She hated everyone and never even had sex with her so called girlfriend. I'm sure she would've if the opportunity had arisen, but only for her girl's sake. Poor thing was a hopeless romantic and longed to be close to Darko, so I bet my lioness, after much poking and prodding, would've sucked it up for the girl's sake.
But still. The point is... is she a lesbian for being romantically involved with someone of the same sex? Or is it completely dependent on physical attraction?
By the same extension, suppose someone is bi-sexual, and happens to be in a relationship with someone of the same sex. Does that make the person gay? And if so, does that mean they cease to be gay when the relationship ends?
I've always thought 'no' was the answer to this, but I'm curious about what other people think, as everyone on the roleplay seemed to disagree with me.
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Really, sexuality is one of those things I find to be difficult, if not impossible, to categorize. No one is going to be the same. There's always going to be an exception to any definition we care to label ourselves with. I'm not going to pretend to understand it even after a year of Psychology and having delved into playing characters across the entire spectrum over the last many years @_@.
I guess all I can say is that you are what you label yourself.
Society these days is so obsessed with labeling people, it can get very annoying, even confusing. But you shouldn't argue with someone over their own identity. That's for them to decide.
I'd like to take commissions for them, I really would, but I have a lot of... stuff on my plate right now and I don't think I need the added stress. ^^;
For me, a gay guy is gay when he figures out that he is attracted to men and only men.
a lesbian is a lesbian when she figures out she is attracted to women and only women.
a bisexual is either gender that likes both male and female and can have a slight or heavy preference for either. Even if a guy has had 83 relationships with men he is still considered bi if he had an encounter with a women once. He just has a heavy pref for men. There is however an exception for people that experiment and or explore their unsure sexuality since many gay youth only find out they are gay when they attempt to have a straight relationship or fling.
a pansexual is anyone that figures out that they are attracted to male, partial male, herm, trans, partial female, female.
a person that figures out that they are attracted to children should seek therapy
In your situation I'd say no she isn't a lesbian unless she had sex, or really really wants to but hasn't yet. Other then that I'd say you were good with the asexual tag. But that's just me :P
Relationships are just as various as sexual orientation and relationships exist well outside of physical interaction. There are hundreds of relationship types were the couple for their own reasons or limits cannot or do not have sex. So just because a person has a relationship does not mean they are forced to wear an orientation tag. Hell, I know 2 different gay men that got married and had kids with women before they fully realized they were gay and not truely attracted to their wives in a physical way but they both still care very deeply for their wives.
In your situation I'd not even really chalk up a specific orientation for Darko on the count of that one situation, I'd call it dominance or dominance play maybe, especially if it was a more animalistic reaction that would have had her respond similar to either a male or female.
also, your pedophile comment made me lol. But it is 5:30 am, everything is very funny atm.
A relationship does not have to be sexual. "Love has no gender."
If a person is truly bisexual or pansexual, having a relationship with one gender or the other dosen't change that orientation unless through being with that person, they discover they were experimenting or unsure of themselves earlier and are exclusively attracted to that gender. They can still be attracted to whatever gender even if they're with one person.
Asexuality, as I understand it, means a complete lack of interest in or need for sex. It dosen't mean you can't have a relationship with someone, and I have seen people who identify as asexuals classify themselves as "romantic" towards both or either gender. I don't think you were at all mistaken in characterizing your character that way.
And imo, it's more than a little silly of a mod to force you to assign a sexuality to a character, especially under threat of banning.
I always thought sexualities had to do with, you know, sexual attraction, hence the term. What your brain tells you is physically attractive and whatnot, and not romantically. Romance and sex are completely different things in my mind, in the case of an asexual person or character who is romantically inclined towards another, that really doesn't affect their sexuality at all.
Whoever told you otherwise is a silly, silly person.
But still, it makes me wonder how people can see "sexual orientation" is such a strict light.
Honestly though, I really hate labels. Straight, gay, lesbian.... does it really matter? Everyone is entitled to love who they love, regardless of gender. :B
I dunno. Just got me thinking is all. I think about words in particular very frequently. x3
In short, idk.
But see, that's why I want to know... what do you think boobins? I want to know everyone's individual opinion so I can get a very generalized idea of what the popular belief is. FurAffinity is probably a biased place to do such a study, but I don't have anyplace else to go so... x3
I sort of refer it all back to the Kinsley scale; you can be classified as "straight with slight homosexual urges," "homosexual with some straight urges," etc. None of the definitions of this should ever really be black and white. But, what do I know.
I call myself bisexual simply because I am attracted to both genders, however I'm not attracted to ALL women any more than I'm attracted to all men, any more than someone who considers themselves "straight" is attracted to all of one sex or the other. I think that last part is something that people tend to overlook, and take the label to an extreme.
I have an rp/book character that I love to death and can easily say has developed into my favorite character to roleplay, and she is considered a lesbian. She's also not known for her patience in men and considers a lot that she meets to be highly irritating. But one thing I'm concerned about is that people will think her somewhat anti-male trait has to do with her sexual orientation, when in reality, she's just a bit of a bitch lol and would have the same poor ass attitude whether she was with men, women, both or neither.
Les./Gay to me us physically or romantically attracted to someone of the same sex. That's about it.
I don't think they should have made you change it, though, because there are different kinds of asexual. Azzy is Aromantic, I'm Panromantic, ect.
Fuck FA
That's just my simple view on it, though, as I don't try to look too deeply into sexuality and hoo-ha like that.
Which actually brings me to something related but not. What are your views on gender? Another thing people see as black and white but honestly I believe gender isn't as physical as it is mental. And when you tie that theory into sexuality it gets even more jumbled. Also judging the fact the some people just don't categorize as either gender or any sexuality. Like, I have a friend who is completely gender fluid. Dating a girl, and quite sexually interested so she doesn't really work for the sexuality part. But an asexual (never gotten to really know one as a close friend so I can't really have a deep theory on that) can still be romantically involved with somebody without it being sexual. The admin for that website could have very well just made you elaborate on orientation. Like put 'asexual with homoromantic interests' or whatevs.
Sorry about this long message most likely just repeating everything above but I really get going on stuff like this because I find human sexuality to be interesting. But impossible to fully comprehend because everybody views it a little bit differently. What you might label as something, somebody else might label as something else.
And the bisexual thing, you are still bisexual to me no matter what relationship you are in.
Or of course there is the idea of only being attracted to one person only. Then you are... I dunno, inputnamehurrsexual.
I am not even sure I am explaining this exactly how I am thinking it. I speak my thoughts better than I type them. I need Dragon or something, dear gawd.