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I don't understand Godzilla 2014
11 years ago
Ok, so definitely not as bad as I thought it was going to be, and I will even make the cardinal sin of saying I enjoyed the humans and their "story" more then in Pacific Rim (excluding Hannibal) because they were characters and not caricatures. But really I thought Pacific Rim was ok so don't attack me.
Still, don't understand this movie in many ways, ways that conflicted with the serious tone it was otherwise trying to convey.
1. It seemed the majority of the movie consisted of people trying to get these impossible-to-stop-monsters to notice them!? They stood on rooftops, populated every bridge conceivable, stood vacantly on walkways... anything to make sure they remained in the line of sight of these gargantuan things. I know people on this site who have fetishes for being stepped on/eaten... am I to believe this was an entire world of these people? Because that's what I thought I was watching. I mean for fucks sake they couldn't even parachute down without making as big a spectacle in the air as possible. If you people want to get eaten by monsters so bad just brows the internet for that stuff and fap, don't throw your lives away! Goddamn
2. Speaking of eating, if these things fed off radiation WHY DID THEY HAVE MOUTHS? I even saw them eat things a few times... Sorry, my creature-design OCD is kicking in again =x
3. Then of course I saw the dog and the Tsunami coming and even though it should have been impossible it survived because AUDIENCE. The reason why I am complaining about that is it happens to be one of my biggest pet peeves in movies; seeing an ambiguous and adorable animal in an impossible to survive situation miraculously make it because they are loved by everyone watching. Nothing smacks me out of a movie faster. It's like watching Hollywood itself materialize into a solid object which then proceeds to beat your skull in.
4. Guns... just, just why. Please someone explain to me what anyone with a gun in this movie hoped to accomplish? In fact pretty much every single shot fired only worked to lure the monsters in closer, see complaint #2 for more details on that. This shouldn't have been an issue at all... this isn't a "lets fire and see if it works" situation, you know it's going to fail before it even happens! Firing a gun at these things would be like firing a gun at a fucking mountain. I try and try to imagine the logic in which theses people's brains worked, and I just can't find anything.
So yeah, aside from that it wasn't horrible, but overall I just can't into Godzilla. I was trying to like this movie, but it just kept pushing me out.
Still, don't understand this movie in many ways, ways that conflicted with the serious tone it was otherwise trying to convey.
1. It seemed the majority of the movie consisted of people trying to get these impossible-to-stop-monsters to notice them!? They stood on rooftops, populated every bridge conceivable, stood vacantly on walkways... anything to make sure they remained in the line of sight of these gargantuan things. I know people on this site who have fetishes for being stepped on/eaten... am I to believe this was an entire world of these people? Because that's what I thought I was watching. I mean for fucks sake they couldn't even parachute down without making as big a spectacle in the air as possible. If you people want to get eaten by monsters so bad just brows the internet for that stuff and fap, don't throw your lives away! Goddamn
2. Speaking of eating, if these things fed off radiation WHY DID THEY HAVE MOUTHS? I even saw them eat things a few times... Sorry, my creature-design OCD is kicking in again =x
3. Then of course I saw the dog and the Tsunami coming and even though it should have been impossible it survived because AUDIENCE. The reason why I am complaining about that is it happens to be one of my biggest pet peeves in movies; seeing an ambiguous and adorable animal in an impossible to survive situation miraculously make it because they are loved by everyone watching. Nothing smacks me out of a movie faster. It's like watching Hollywood itself materialize into a solid object which then proceeds to beat your skull in.
4. Guns... just, just why. Please someone explain to me what anyone with a gun in this movie hoped to accomplish? In fact pretty much every single shot fired only worked to lure the monsters in closer, see complaint #2 for more details on that. This shouldn't have been an issue at all... this isn't a "lets fire and see if it works" situation, you know it's going to fail before it even happens! Firing a gun at these things would be like firing a gun at a fucking mountain. I try and try to imagine the logic in which theses people's brains worked, and I just can't find anything.
So yeah, aside from that it wasn't horrible, but overall I just can't into Godzilla. I was trying to like this movie, but it just kept pushing me out.
I mean hell they had a "wise Asian" character mouthing off script exposition the whole movie, this would have been the perfect thing for him to bring up.
Because he was, himself, a poorly written character devoid of depth and quality; he was still just an element of the same plot. If the writers couldn't properly define just what, "he eats radiation" means in any practical sense, one of the characters they created aren't going to articulate any better than that. It would certainly make more sense to indulge the audience with more on the matter, but obviously the scope and subject of the film and franchise offered the director and writers enough leeway to just write it off as "giant, radioactive monster magic", beyond a need for anymore explanation than that. Unfortunately, that's just how little they respect their audience. But hey, not like anyone feeding their machine hundreds of millions of greenbacks deserve much more recognition, at leastnot from the film's creators.
The hype I think of Godzilla skewed my view on it, and I think that is a huge issue with Hollywood. The trailers for movies now seem like they don't relate to anything at all or they manipulate what the movie is actually about. Look at the most recent Hercules movie.
I just like how tubby godzilla is in his new design. X3
I genuinely enjoyed the cartoon spinoff as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIcExdpsEcQ
Japan bought the rights to Zilla just so they can stomp him in a movie.
4 could have a logical explanation though. In theory a military force could use firearms to, like you said, get the attention of the monsters and use this as a decoy method, IE sacrificing troops to lure the creatures away from civilian evacuation routes. Of course that's not what they were doing in the movie, especially not in Hawaii where they deployed troops to the roofs of densely populated resorts. I just chalked it up to "the army is inept," as displayed by the rest of their actions in the film.
But I hear you. Godzilla (2014) is one of those movies that I like, but completely understand it when others don't. It's good, but not as good as it could have been.
Godzilla acted everything but not a predator as I saw. There were a scene where it just stopped and made a roar to catch the attention of its "prey", instead of surprise attack with minimal chance of injury -.-
Also if Godzilla was a predator of these things why did he also eat radiation? He must totally live off radiation since these things haven't existed for so long, otherwise what was Godzilla eati--- You know what, whatever XD Makes about as much sense as anything else in this movie.
Still I dont think that these movie makers would ever reach species design of Master of Orion 3. Terrible thing that the in-game encyclopedia is not on the Internet. I would suggest to see the Meklars for there evolution, from turtle like creatures to cyborgs and "true" machines, also the Silicoid whom communicate by growing crystal formations in various colors and branch patterns...
I was amazed he snuck up on mom at the end.
Kind of stark contrast to "Oh shit we need to blow a LOT more stuff up!" which is the vibe I got from this one...
He actually ducked under the boats rather than trash them.
Don't kill the dog! Sure black men have only a 5% survival rating in a Sci-Fi movie but DON"T KILL THE DOG!!
The Motos might have needed solid mater as well as even water. Radiation just might be another form of vitamins...
Soldiers gotta shoot shit! You don't shoot shit, then you don't get a gun. (Although they did seem to stop shooting at Godzilla in Honolulu)
Gimme some G.I.N.O. meat, baby! Where are you, Zilla?! <3
I liked the previous Godzilla design as well, so you are not alone <3
Though I did find it kinda funny that Godzilla's a dick to tourists in my hometown
Me? I don't like monster movies in general. I never like them because I know my weapons.
That's how I feel about the motion picture industry et al anymore, I only liked two movies this year. I'm actually more excited about foreign films.
And of course, the people stand around and watch because it's California, duh! (I kid, I kid!) It's the whole 'train-wreck syndrome', they watch because they simply cannot process the fact that what they are seeing is real.
Distraction. It was a pretty common war tactic during ww2 for the guys with the guns to shower armor with bullets. Even knowing full well it was likely to do nothing. The annoyance would get the attention of the tank commander who would order they be dealt with. It all served as a distraction either to get the guy with the bazooka into position unnoticed, or allow a demo team time to move.
Though that was a gripe of mine as well. Nothing has stopped these thing. Not heavy artillery, not fire bombs, nothing. And they looked more annoyed that these things were bothering it than by being pelted with ordinance. So why the fuck bother?
Allllll that aside, it was still one of the better Godzilla movies to come out in decades. I'm probably alone in saying I looked the design of the 1999 Godzilla (mostly because I don't have sentimental ties to the original design) despite the films, well, blatantly bad 90s production and writing. The new Godzilla did the franchise some justice, but I can't give it any brownie points as a general film. It was a well acted film with an average script and beautiful production. May not be the best, but hey, I'm up for baby steps. Maybe they can improve on the next one (which may have a special friend named Mothra in it).
But this is a film, so the effectiveness of weapons depends upon the character who suggests their use. A battalion of unnamed men with assault rifles will do less damage than one named character with a pistol. If you want to use a nuke, make sure that whoever drops it has a name and a little character development time first!
These are all things the military would be very aware of, might I add.
Science aside, the concept itself evades military strategy by a long shot. Believe it or not, the military wouldn't see a big monster and say "nuke it", especially when they just watched it eat a Bikini test blast for breakfast without as much as a scratch. Whoever writes the decisions made by military characters should be required to read The Art of War and The 33 Tactics of War before writing anything. Actually, the way they portray some of the tactical minds in these movies contradicts everything we actually employ. I'm not saying we have geniuses as officers, but they're not completely innate.
For me though they did get the look of Godzilla as a good nod to the original, can't deny that. And the character everyone seemed to hate, the Japanese guy, made it feel like the old movies to me. Pretty much take all the Hollywood/American out of it and it'd have been a great B-movie to watch before the main event, it'd have been that short. =)
I'm not bashing Americans or anything, it's just Hollywood's got a problem with that, plus the American Theater goer seems to need that kind of thing which is part of why they do that in the big H. I mean really, it's not like James Bond is English or anything... waaait a moment! Anyway, there is a time and place for good American films, but not when you're stealing a 'classic' one from another country and replacing foreign characters with as many Americans as they can.
Whoo, I love Rants! Sorry about that. I'll shut up now! ;)
It's also something of an annoyance over in Europe that WWII is always depicted in Hollywood films as brave American soldiers storming Europe and defeating the Nazi menace. This is not very historically accurate - the US provided a great deal of vital logistical support and were a key player in the naval side of the war, but their involvement in the land war in Europe was really quite limited. Hollywood just likes to steal the action role because it's not so easy to make a film about the brave captain of a cargo ship risking U-boat attack to deliver his vital cargo of potatoes.
I'm slightly reminded of a point in The Postman (Novel, not film). There's a nice little aside in which it states that there had been efforts to rebuild a stable government immediately after the nuclear war, but they had been defeated - by gun-toting survivalists who grew paranoid and panicky, to the point of making any form of travel very dangerous by laying booby-traps or maintaining sniper coverage of their unmarked domains with a 'shoot first' policy. In their eagerness to defend themselves and their families against bandits - ie, anyone they didn't personally recognize - they provided the final nudge that stopped communities coming together again and rebuilding. By the time they were all dead or returned to what remained of civilisation, it was too late.
I'd say go watch (Monsters) 2014 instead
Finally the entire thing could have been explained away if Godzilla actually ate the MUTOs to replenish his energy stores after wasting it all tramping around the world and fighting these monsters and using laserface, but no, he just falls down, sleeps it off, and disappears back into the ocean.
#2 can be explained by them having to eat the radioactive materials to use them. Absorbing it through the skin is unfeasible, especially with their lousy surface/volume ratio they have at their size, aside from their skin probably being way too thick for the radiation to get through.
#3: The dog survived?
#4: Hollywood tactics. Always shoot at it, when it doesn't work, shoot more. At least they didn't do the 'nuclear bombs fix everything' this time.
It's just there because giant monster stomps city.
yeah, the "giant=indestructible" trope is one of the few fictional ideas that match up with science. if you see something rise from the ocean that is several stories tall and does not instantly collapse under it's own weight, it should be fairly obvious this idea is in full effect (maybe you can blame the idea on vidya gaems teaching people stupid things like you can kill anything with a pistol so long as shoot it long enough XD)
that being said, I didn't watch this movie anyways. Spiderman, planet of the apes, and Guardians of the galaxy was an investment I felt mostly paid off. I just wonder why you are so masochistic that you watch movies that you KNOW are going to be bad, like transformers and this XD
"Just once, I'd like to face an alien menace that wasn't immune to bullets."
Okay, big monster isn't affected by bullets. Why the hell do they keep shooting at it anyway? If not even tanks and rocket launchers and jets don't work, why do you keep trying like it will?