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Daniel's Rant VI: I've Got My First Hater! :O
18 years ago
Hehe...
You know, when I come face to face with descrimination, I do one of two things. Sometimes I get pissed off; but it takes a troll of either great intelligence, or great stupidity, to get me to that point. Most of the time, I can't help but laugh. But, you might ask, "Jynnx; why do you find being hated humerous?" Well, boys and girls, gather round; I'll teach you a little something about the human capacity for acclimation.
Even beyond their capacity for intelligence, or love, or wisdom; human beings have one real advantage over most other animals. We can adapt to, almost, any environment we happen to across. As long a the basic components of our life are there (oxygen, nitrogen, water, nutrients, etc.), and there aren't any highly poisonous traits present, we can adapt no matter where we go. Some might argue that, and say that its our ability to adapt any environment to suit our needs that is our greatest advantage, but that's a discussion for another day.
Now, knowing what you do about acclimation, realize that people often become numb to something if they experience it on a day-to-day basis. Which is part of where the "Heaven is Hell" mentality starts. Once again, though, that's a discussion for another day. What I'm saying is, that I've already acclimated to being insulted, being thought of as a monster. So really, if you want to make me feel bad about who I am... Well, to not beat around the bush, that's not gonna' do it.
Now, I'm really past the point of giving a flying fuck about preserving privacy. As any of you who regularly read my rants know, I rarely actually name/link-drop; unless I need to use that person as a specific example. In this case, I just don't care. For a few hours, I'm going to embrace the philosophy that posting something in a public format automatically mitigates any right to privacy you may have. Why? Who knows.
I suppose I'm just...not necessarily angry or irritated, but at my wits end. No, don't get me wrong. It isn't about the person's thoughts, or their beliefs, or even the fact that they're acting upon those beleifs. It's the fact that they went behind my back, and started talking shit. They didn't even have the balls to come to my face and say what they were thinking. Just that they were unwatching me. That kind of cowardice is one of the few things that really gets under my skin.
So, I'm sure you're all thinking, "Come On, Jynnx, stop beating around the bush; Let's dissect some stupidity already! That's what we're all waiting for!" Pushy bastards. Naw, I'm kidding. I love you people. <3
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/194445/
"I don't want to know about it.. I'm as open minded as the next furry but there are some things I don't want to know about, it came to my attention rather recently about a person who has things I wish I never knew."
Oh, Hells. Starting right off the bat with a logical fallacy. That's never a good sign. Alright, let's do this in a bulletin format, shall we? Oh, and, open-minded you say? I think not. Pft.
1. Nobody forced you to read anything I've ever made. My profile, submissions, or journals. No one's holding a gun to your head, saying that if you don't look at my art, they're going to blow your brains out. And if they are saying that, you would probably be better off letting them. That way your eyes don't burn out of your skull because of the ugliness. LAWLZ.
2. Okay, you don't want to know. That would be fine, but... I don't want to know a lot of things, myself. I didn't want to know that my biological father was more interested in why my mother was getting remarried, rather than asking about how I was doing. I didn't want to know that my best friend is the biggest closet homophobe. I didn't want to know that it had been my ineptitude that had killed my pet rabbits.
Are you really so self-centred that you think you're the only one in the whole world who's learned something he didn't want to know? Do you really think you're the only person in the whole world that stumbled across information that he didn't want stuck in his head? Egotistical fool.
DO YOU THINK YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW I WAS A PEDOPHILE!? ARE YOU THAT FUCKING ARROGANT? Do you really believe that I wanted to know that my heart beat for people I could never have. That my desires could burn and yearn for people I could never touch? Never kiss, never hold; not even forge romantic interests with? You don't even know what it feels like, you fucking idiot. You have no idea how much it tears at my heart to know that, even though I have never touched a kid, I'm automatically some evil monster because of my own thoughts? As if I can somehow control them. You don't know what it feels like to be told everyday of your life, that it's your fault for being weak enough to feel those thoughts. Like I can turn off sections of my brain at will.
Moving on.
"Maybe I should have read the userpage before putting them on watch, but I don't tend to do that as I'm lazy so its more my fault."
Gee, ya' think? *rolls eyes* There are so many things wrong with this statement... I don't even know where to start. Actually, nevermind. Yes, I do.
1. Going through my profile wouldn't have helped you, since I didn't put that it into the revisions after you'd watched me.
2. You say you're open-minded... But the very fact that you're willing to insult and condemn someone for something that they feel, but have never acted upon, proves that you are the real monster. It proves that you're only open-minded when it comes to things that you agree with. You don't even know what the word fucking means. Being open-minded has nothing to do with acceptance or tolernace, brat. It has everything to do with keeping your eyes open. With being able to discuss things openly, face to face, instead of running around people's backs, and try to learn something, you nitwit.
"I read a journal their journal then from there to their userpage, and to be honest I was sickened and appalled that they would openly admit such a thing."
Ah, yes. Because the mind is such a terrible thing to use.
"Yet I do not want to know if you are a pedo in real life, that's sick just sick and wrong thinking of children in that way who aren't even of legal age."
Really? Then why is it every reputable psychologist disagrees with you? Give me a link to a singe respected article or psychologist that says otherwise, and I might listen to you.
At any rate, the real point of quoting this part was as follows. Thoughts are inanimate. They cannot be good or bad, even if you believe in such a dichotomy. They cannot be positive or negative, they cannot be sick or healty. They are thoughts. They are neutral. Potential, not substance.
And yet... No one has once told me, no matter how many times I ask, what exactly one needs to understand about sex for it to be consensual, and not rape. No one has ever bothered to answer my question of what information is miracalously bestowed upon us the minute we hit 16 years of age, that we didn't know before. If you don't believe people under a certain age know what needs to be known, that's fine.
BUT DO NOT;
I REPEAT;
DO NOT;
MAKE FUCKING BLANKET STATEMENTS AND THINK YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH IT WITH ME.
If you want to argue that, then tell me what that information is, for fuck's sake! Tell the world, so you actually have some kind of logic from which to argue, rather than emotion and logical fallacies out the ass. D:< IT'S NOT THAT FUCKING HARD A QUESTION. WHY WILL YOU PEOPLE NOT ANSWER!?
"Get the fuck away from me."
But... NO.
JUST. FUCKING. NO.
YOU were the one who came to me. Sure I watched you first, but it was you who initiated actual communication. Don't even fucking go there.
"I also don't want to know that you want to fuck your dog or your horse or any kind of animal, that is the kind of shit that gives furrys a bad name."
Actually, no, it's people like you. People who are so obsessed with sex and porn, that they make a point out of putting that in their first impresions on people. Seriously, go look at this person's profile. What's right there? "I like porn."
It's also fursons who go out of their way to try and make different people feel unwelcome in the fandom. Why do you think so many potential newcomers turn away? It's not because they don't like the idea behind the fandom. It's because they don't like the execution; the people in it who have this abhorrent need to put themselves on a pedastal, and look down on others for any "slight" they can find.
And you have the gall to blame me? Seriously, WTF?
"Do you know how many people out there already think that we all go around fucking every four legged animal we can find?"
OH.
OOOOOOH.
OOOOHOHOHOHO.
NO YOU DIDN'T. YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT.
So, in your logic, I'm so supposed to pretend to be something I'm not... Supress myself... Lie not only to me, but everyone I care about...
So that you don't look bad!? FUCK THAT.
"So if you got unwatched and blocked by me and a friend of mine cos yes I told her, then its your own god damn fucking fault."
And, if you'd actually read my new profile, like you claim to have, you'd know that I don't give a fuck. If you can't accept people for people, no matter who or what they are...
Well, that's you loss. I don't need "friends" like that. I already have real friends who accept me in my totality. Lovers who are willing to let me touch them, even though they know what I am.
And that...
You are an arrogant, pompous, fool if you think anything you can do or say can take that happiness from me. Don't even bother trying.
On a...less retorting note...
I'VE OPENLY ADMITED MY PEDOPHILIA NO LESS THAN EIGHT TIMES. EIGHT.
And that's just the one's I could find. You were watching me for most of them. And now you're raising a stink about it? You wait until after I've finally started learning to open myself to the public, until after I mention that I have people who care for me unconditionally, to try and cause problems?
Well, you did cause problems. You did cause drama. But somehow, I think, if you ever read this, you'll realize it's not problems for me.
It's problems, for you.
Lastly, and this applies to everyone (except my lovers and actual friends; you can ignore this warning and do it anyway, and not suffer my wrath. Yes, I play favorites.). DO NOT. FUCK. WITH ME. If you have an issue with me, have the balls to bring it up, to me. Do NOT go around my back, whispering behind me, thinking I'm not gonna' find out.
Do not think, for a second, that you can play this game with me. I guarantee you, you can't play it on my level.
Lastly...
I'm sorry for wasting everyone's time; those of you who actually read this. Feel free to forget you ever bothered. I'm just venting, 'cause I'm pissed. Take it as seriously, or as unseriously, as you desire. And feel free to ask me quesionts. My rants are always open to comment. Trolling and flaming? No. Discussion and education?
Yes.
(PS... Am I ED worthy yet? >_< )
You know, when I come face to face with descrimination, I do one of two things. Sometimes I get pissed off; but it takes a troll of either great intelligence, or great stupidity, to get me to that point. Most of the time, I can't help but laugh. But, you might ask, "Jynnx; why do you find being hated humerous?" Well, boys and girls, gather round; I'll teach you a little something about the human capacity for acclimation.
Even beyond their capacity for intelligence, or love, or wisdom; human beings have one real advantage over most other animals. We can adapt to, almost, any environment we happen to across. As long a the basic components of our life are there (oxygen, nitrogen, water, nutrients, etc.), and there aren't any highly poisonous traits present, we can adapt no matter where we go. Some might argue that, and say that its our ability to adapt any environment to suit our needs that is our greatest advantage, but that's a discussion for another day.
Now, knowing what you do about acclimation, realize that people often become numb to something if they experience it on a day-to-day basis. Which is part of where the "Heaven is Hell" mentality starts. Once again, though, that's a discussion for another day. What I'm saying is, that I've already acclimated to being insulted, being thought of as a monster. So really, if you want to make me feel bad about who I am... Well, to not beat around the bush, that's not gonna' do it.
Now, I'm really past the point of giving a flying fuck about preserving privacy. As any of you who regularly read my rants know, I rarely actually name/link-drop; unless I need to use that person as a specific example. In this case, I just don't care. For a few hours, I'm going to embrace the philosophy that posting something in a public format automatically mitigates any right to privacy you may have. Why? Who knows.
I suppose I'm just...not necessarily angry or irritated, but at my wits end. No, don't get me wrong. It isn't about the person's thoughts, or their beliefs, or even the fact that they're acting upon those beleifs. It's the fact that they went behind my back, and started talking shit. They didn't even have the balls to come to my face and say what they were thinking. Just that they were unwatching me. That kind of cowardice is one of the few things that really gets under my skin.
So, I'm sure you're all thinking, "Come On, Jynnx, stop beating around the bush; Let's dissect some stupidity already! That's what we're all waiting for!" Pushy bastards. Naw, I'm kidding. I love you people. <3
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/194445/
"I don't want to know about it.. I'm as open minded as the next furry but there are some things I don't want to know about, it came to my attention rather recently about a person who has things I wish I never knew."
Oh, Hells. Starting right off the bat with a logical fallacy. That's never a good sign. Alright, let's do this in a bulletin format, shall we? Oh, and, open-minded you say? I think not. Pft.
1. Nobody forced you to read anything I've ever made. My profile, submissions, or journals. No one's holding a gun to your head, saying that if you don't look at my art, they're going to blow your brains out. And if they are saying that, you would probably be better off letting them. That way your eyes don't burn out of your skull because of the ugliness. LAWLZ.
2. Okay, you don't want to know. That would be fine, but... I don't want to know a lot of things, myself. I didn't want to know that my biological father was more interested in why my mother was getting remarried, rather than asking about how I was doing. I didn't want to know that my best friend is the biggest closet homophobe. I didn't want to know that it had been my ineptitude that had killed my pet rabbits.
Are you really so self-centred that you think you're the only one in the whole world who's learned something he didn't want to know? Do you really think you're the only person in the whole world that stumbled across information that he didn't want stuck in his head? Egotistical fool.
DO YOU THINK YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW I WAS A PEDOPHILE!? ARE YOU THAT FUCKING ARROGANT? Do you really believe that I wanted to know that my heart beat for people I could never have. That my desires could burn and yearn for people I could never touch? Never kiss, never hold; not even forge romantic interests with? You don't even know what it feels like, you fucking idiot. You have no idea how much it tears at my heart to know that, even though I have never touched a kid, I'm automatically some evil monster because of my own thoughts? As if I can somehow control them. You don't know what it feels like to be told everyday of your life, that it's your fault for being weak enough to feel those thoughts. Like I can turn off sections of my brain at will.
Moving on.
"Maybe I should have read the userpage before putting them on watch, but I don't tend to do that as I'm lazy so its more my fault."
Gee, ya' think? *rolls eyes* There are so many things wrong with this statement... I don't even know where to start. Actually, nevermind. Yes, I do.
1. Going through my profile wouldn't have helped you, since I didn't put that it into the revisions after you'd watched me.
2. You say you're open-minded... But the very fact that you're willing to insult and condemn someone for something that they feel, but have never acted upon, proves that you are the real monster. It proves that you're only open-minded when it comes to things that you agree with. You don't even know what the word fucking means. Being open-minded has nothing to do with acceptance or tolernace, brat. It has everything to do with keeping your eyes open. With being able to discuss things openly, face to face, instead of running around people's backs, and try to learn something, you nitwit.
"I read a journal their journal then from there to their userpage, and to be honest I was sickened and appalled that they would openly admit such a thing."
Ah, yes. Because the mind is such a terrible thing to use.
"Yet I do not want to know if you are a pedo in real life, that's sick just sick and wrong thinking of children in that way who aren't even of legal age."
Really? Then why is it every reputable psychologist disagrees with you? Give me a link to a singe respected article or psychologist that says otherwise, and I might listen to you.
At any rate, the real point of quoting this part was as follows. Thoughts are inanimate. They cannot be good or bad, even if you believe in such a dichotomy. They cannot be positive or negative, they cannot be sick or healty. They are thoughts. They are neutral. Potential, not substance.
And yet... No one has once told me, no matter how many times I ask, what exactly one needs to understand about sex for it to be consensual, and not rape. No one has ever bothered to answer my question of what information is miracalously bestowed upon us the minute we hit 16 years of age, that we didn't know before. If you don't believe people under a certain age know what needs to be known, that's fine.
BUT DO NOT;
I REPEAT;
DO NOT;
MAKE FUCKING BLANKET STATEMENTS AND THINK YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH IT WITH ME.
If you want to argue that, then tell me what that information is, for fuck's sake! Tell the world, so you actually have some kind of logic from which to argue, rather than emotion and logical fallacies out the ass. D:< IT'S NOT THAT FUCKING HARD A QUESTION. WHY WILL YOU PEOPLE NOT ANSWER!?
"Get the fuck away from me."
But... NO.
JUST. FUCKING. NO.
YOU were the one who came to me. Sure I watched you first, but it was you who initiated actual communication. Don't even fucking go there.
"I also don't want to know that you want to fuck your dog or your horse or any kind of animal, that is the kind of shit that gives furrys a bad name."
Actually, no, it's people like you. People who are so obsessed with sex and porn, that they make a point out of putting that in their first impresions on people. Seriously, go look at this person's profile. What's right there? "I like porn."
It's also fursons who go out of their way to try and make different people feel unwelcome in the fandom. Why do you think so many potential newcomers turn away? It's not because they don't like the idea behind the fandom. It's because they don't like the execution; the people in it who have this abhorrent need to put themselves on a pedastal, and look down on others for any "slight" they can find.
And you have the gall to blame me? Seriously, WTF?
"Do you know how many people out there already think that we all go around fucking every four legged animal we can find?"
OH.
OOOOOOH.
OOOOHOHOHOHO.
NO YOU DIDN'T. YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT.
So, in your logic, I'm so supposed to pretend to be something I'm not... Supress myself... Lie not only to me, but everyone I care about...
So that you don't look bad!? FUCK THAT.
"So if you got unwatched and blocked by me and a friend of mine cos yes I told her, then its your own god damn fucking fault."
And, if you'd actually read my new profile, like you claim to have, you'd know that I don't give a fuck. If you can't accept people for people, no matter who or what they are...
Well, that's you loss. I don't need "friends" like that. I already have real friends who accept me in my totality. Lovers who are willing to let me touch them, even though they know what I am.
And that...
You are an arrogant, pompous, fool if you think anything you can do or say can take that happiness from me. Don't even bother trying.
On a...less retorting note...
I'VE OPENLY ADMITED MY PEDOPHILIA NO LESS THAN EIGHT TIMES. EIGHT.
And that's just the one's I could find. You were watching me for most of them. And now you're raising a stink about it? You wait until after I've finally started learning to open myself to the public, until after I mention that I have people who care for me unconditionally, to try and cause problems?
Well, you did cause problems. You did cause drama. But somehow, I think, if you ever read this, you'll realize it's not problems for me.
It's problems, for you.
Lastly, and this applies to everyone (except my lovers and actual friends; you can ignore this warning and do it anyway, and not suffer my wrath. Yes, I play favorites.). DO NOT. FUCK. WITH ME. If you have an issue with me, have the balls to bring it up, to me. Do NOT go around my back, whispering behind me, thinking I'm not gonna' find out.
Do not think, for a second, that you can play this game with me. I guarantee you, you can't play it on my level.
Lastly...
I'm sorry for wasting everyone's time; those of you who actually read this. Feel free to forget you ever bothered. I'm just venting, 'cause I'm pissed. Take it as seriously, or as unseriously, as you desire. And feel free to ask me quesionts. My rants are always open to comment. Trolling and flaming? No. Discussion and education?
Yes.
(PS... Am I ED worthy yet? >_< )
"ARE YOU THAT FUCKING ARROGANT?"
XD
This is a gem. And it proves that there are pedophiles on FA.
**considers calling the Admin over for a little bit of legality issues**
And, yet again, I'm lowered to repeating myself.
I'm not making anyone know, or not know, anything.
Did you come to this journal under force?
Did you come to this journal under coercion?
No? I didn't think so.
Get some new material folks. You'll seem smarter.
"DO YOU THINK THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO -DO- WANT TO KNOW?!"
It's not my responsibility to tip-toe around the facts of the issue, because someone else has a light stomach. If you don't want to know anything about me?
DON'T. READ. MY. JOURNALS.
Fuck, don't even WATCH me.
It's that simple, people. No less simple, no more simple.
"And it proves that there are pedophiles on FA."
...
Duh.
"**considers calling the Admin over for a little bit of legality issues**"
It's funny how people only ever threaten to do it when they know they really can't. If you can point out to me a single issue of law that applies, I'll be impressed.
Actually, I'll be a little disgusted in my country, if it's debased itself low enough to start enforcing thought crimes.
I wouldn't surprised though.
XD
You're such a good laugh.
JESUS CHRIST, GROW THE FUCK UP.
This is the spirit of your rant, distilled:
"Someone on the internet thinks I'm an icky pervert waaaaah"
If you are trying to open an avenue of discussion, you are doing it in the worst way possible. It's shit flinging.
Why did you make this a public journal? Why not write it and keep it to yourself? Do you only feel validated when you have your thoughts open for comment?
I am not saying you should stifle yourself in some "closet", real or imagined, so don't make that claim. I am saying that you don't need to publicly drag out your private feelings toward another and embarrass yourself.
The internet is not your hugbox. When creating anything and putting it into the public sphere, you should be aware that people will react both positively and negatively to you and your work. To be so childish as to tantrum over the ineffectual feelings toward your character by some random person is to debase yourself in one of the worst ways possible.
"Someone on the internet thinks I'm an icky pervert waaaaah" "
Hey, you're right; that is the point! At least that means you actually read some of it. That's better than most. :D However, you don't really seem to have a real grasp on the situation, so let's help you there.
"If you are trying to open an avenue of discussion, you are doing it in the worst way possible."
See, that's the thing. That avenue [io]has[/b] been open. I've said from the beginning that if you're willing to actually discuss the subjet, rather than run your mouth behind my back, even if you have a problem with it, there won't be an issue.
FROM. THE. BEGINNING.
You're right. This is shit flinging. And do you know why I'm flinging shit? Because people aren't listening to that part of what I say. They aren't being willing to disucss it in a civil manner.
So don't think you have any right to tell me that I'm not allowed to get pissed, and show that, when people do stupid shit like this.
"Why did you make this a public journal?"
Why not? I was under the impression that the point of these journals was to write down your thoughts. Maybe I misunderstood it. Maybe there to write down your thoughts, as long as the general public doesn't get squicked by it. Tch.
"Why not write it and keep it to yourself?"
Why would I? As I said before, it's time some of you people learned that since I have said that I am open to discussion about the whole thing, you don't get to go around my back and try to diss me or fuck with me. That's not going to go over well with me.
Not to be condescending, I'm just wondering; Do you understand that point yet? If not, I am happy to try and elaborate it; that's really the driving force behind the entire situation.
"Do you only feel validated when you have your thoughts open for comment?"
I'm not entirely sure where you pulled that one out of. Actually, it's more than that. I don't understand exactly why you would think the medium matters to me. I knew when I posted this journal, one of two things was going to happen. Either,
1. Everyone was going to avoid commenting, because it's obviously not really a true rant; more like an explosion of me meeting wits end.
2. Anyone who did comment was going to be irritated about the post, and try to refute it in some way, shape or form.
Do you really think I'd lose any sleep if no one commented? Hells; if actually read all the post, you'd know I pretty much eluded that you didn't have to, at the end of it.
It's not about whether or not people comment. It's not about whether it's public, private or fucking governmental. This is a journal. People write down their thoughts in journals. There isn't any deeper meaning to it than that.
"I am saying that you don't need to publicly drag out your private feelings toward another and embarrass yourself."
See, that's another thing. I'm not embarassed. You might not like what I've done, but I'm not embarassed.
Saddened that so many people seem to be missing the point, perhaps. But, embarassed? No, not really, no.
"The internet is not your hugbox."
Gee, ya' think? I'd have thought that the fact that there was a journal that prompted this would have been proof enough. Thank you, mein Freund, for enlightening me.
"When creating anything and putting it into the public sphere, you should be aware that people will react both positively and negatively to you and your work."
Um... I'm going to try and not be sarcastic and condescending here. But it's so easy...
*deep breath*
YES, I KNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW.
Now that that's out of the way, let's continue. I have been on the internet for most of my life. And you know what I've learned during all that time?
That despite however much rabidly people might try to argue the opposite, the internet really is no different from real life. 'Cause, and this might be a bit of a shock, in real life, IT'S THE SAME THING.
That is just so obvious that I...it hurts.
"To be so childish as to tantrum over the ineffectual feelings toward your character by some random person is to debase yourself in one of the worst ways possible."
*sigh*
You really don't get it, do you?
DID I NOT SAY, EXPLICITLELY, SEVERAL TIMES:
1. It is not this person's feelings about that bugs me.'
2. It is not the fact that they are acting upon those feelings.
3. It's how they acted upon those feelings.
Did you see that time? Was it plain enough?
And especially when its something as abhorrent as pedophilia. I mean, honestly, what did you THINK people would say? 'Oh, you're a pedo? Thats cool! Come over to my house, meet the family!'
No, people are going to think its sick, whether you have any control over it or not.
I doubt very much I have control over my silly little kinks (none of which are even one iota as extreme as pedophilia) but it doesn't mean people should accept me 100% with open arms for it!
Secondly, that person is 100% right about the dog fuckers giving furries a bad name. Do not try and imply otherwise.
I like anthro animals, I like art, I like a little bit of RP sometimes. Thats why I mingle with furries.
But what do you know, everytime someone from the outside finds out Im a furry, they instantly assume I want to fuck animals! And as someone who merely enjoys anthro animal art and nothing more (browse my gallery, I think I have one 'naughty' pic in there which was done as a joke between me and a friend) thats pretty fucking horrible.
Raping animals is almost as abhorrent as raping children, so I don't suppose you WOULD be able to see a distinction, really (no, I know you claim to never have done anything to a child, but presumably, thats what you're thinking about when you whack off, no?)
Just.....shut the hell up. You're coming across as if you expect the world to just lap up your nasty sexual preferences and love you just the same. It doesn't work like that, no matter how much you think it should.
You know what, you're right, nobody was FORCED to read your journals and be repelled by them. But similarly, no-one FORCED you to admit, on no less than 8 occasions, that you were a pedo.
If its your right to blurt that out to everyone, its other people's right to react to it.
And if you honestly think that reaction will be anything other than negative (except maybe from fellow pedos) then you need more help than I first thought.
MY
FUCKING
GODS
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO REPEAT MYSELF!? ARE YOU LISTENING THIS TIME? BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT AGAIN.
"Point one, the world does not need to know your kinks in black and white, and if you DO feel the need to tell them, expect judgment."
1. I AM NOT FORCING ANYONE TO KNOW SOMETHING THEY DO NOT WANT TO KNOW. NO ONE HAS TO COME LOOK AT MY JOURNALS. IT'S NOT LIKE WHAT I HAVE TO SAY IS THE BE ALL AND END ALL OF THE UNIVERSE.
Jesus, I'm not that important people; you don't have to be here.
2. And this is just copied from my reply to the post above your own.
DID I NOT SAY, EXPLICITLELY, SEVERAL TIMES:
1. It is not this person's feelings about that bugs me.'
2. It is not the fact that they are acting upon those feelings.
3. It's how they acted upon those feelings.
Did you see that time? Was it plain enough?
Do you get it now? I'm not trying to be condescending, I really want to know. No one else seems to be understanding that one, integral point, and taking the entire journal out of context. If you don't get that, you're not getting the actual point of the entire journal.
"I have a few odd little fetishy things myself, but I haven't blurted them out to anyone online because I know people would either mock me or think 'wtf'?"
I've responded to this "point" so many times I think, that if I did it again, you would have to constitute as spamming. But, what the fuck. Let's do it again. Let's try to elaborate on the above bulletin.
I am well aware that there are people out there who are going to take issue with what I am. Actually, I probably know that better than you do. I've faced my entire life, for various other factors of my being. In all honesty, I don't care if someone doesn't like me because of that. I don't like Westboro Baptists because they are that. I don't like sluts, because they are that.
But there are ways of putting out the idea that you don't like something FAR superior than to what this person has done. From the start of when I started admitting that I was a pedophile I have said openly; "I am always open for discussion on this matter, as long as you can remain civil and logical, rather than emotional." FROM. THE. BEGINNING. And, from the beginning, I've also said that I do not, and will not, take kindly to having you muttering in the shadows behind my back.
You don't like me? THAT'S FINE. I don't think I can stress that enough. IT'S OKAY. I probably don't like you, either. However; have the balls to at least say it to my face. It's not like I'm such an imposing figure, physically or politically, that there was any reason to simply go over my head and around my back. Not even having enough courage to admit to the world who they had taken issue with.
THAT IS THE POINT OF THE JOURNAL.
THAT, FOR THE LAST TIME, IS THE POINT OF THE JOURNAL.
"And especially when its something as abhorrent as pedophilia. I mean, honestly, what did you THINK people would say? 'Oh, you're a pedo? Thats cool! Come over to my house, meet the family!'"
*sigh*
You really... You're not getting it.
How many times have I said that I understand the fact that not everyone is going to be able to accept that.
HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES!? I'm serious. Before you type a single letter more, I want you to go back, though all of my journals, and count up the number of times I've said that.
"Secondly, that person is 100% right about the dog fuckers giving furries a bad name. Do not try and imply otherwise."
No, actually, they're not. Give me proof.
GIVE ME, FUCKING, PROOF.
Right now, you look like an idiot. "IMMA' SAY WHAT I FEEL LIKE, BUT NOT BACK ANY OF MY CLAIMS UP"
There's a certain thing, that anyone with half a brain knows about, called the Burden of Proof. You wanna' make a claim? Back it up. Provide proof; evidence. Something tangible, something statistical, something scientifically studies. Don't just say something, and expect me to believe it. Because I can do the same thing.
I say that the people who give furries a bad name are the ones incabape of seperating fantasy from reality. The ones so wrapped up in their "furrie" world, that they can barely function in real society. Those among us who "fall in love" with fictional characters, who go on to say that they're soul mates with a character in some story, or that they're going to get married to a figment of someone else's imagination and creativity. That's who people see when they look at furries and think badly of us.
The ONLY ones who make the first connection between zoophiles and furries; are yourself. Furries. So, of fucking COURSE, the rest of the world is going to see that. You people can't leave it alone for more than a minute at a time, and it's the only thing they see.
"Raping animals is almost as abhorrent as raping children, so I don't suppose you WOULD be able to see a distinction, really (no, I know you claim to never have done anything to a child, but presumably, thats what you're thinking about when you whack off, no?)"
Ah, yes. And now we go back to the, "I'M RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG, BECAUSE I SAID SO" mentality.
You know what, dipshit? You're right! Raping animals is a bad thing to do! Maybe you're not as stupid as I thought! :D
Making love to them, however, is not.
Moving on.
"Just.....shut the hell up."
This...
Coming from someone...
Who doesn't actually have a single grasp on what's going on in this situation, let alone with the journal...
Grow up for a few years, get a grasp on reality, then come back. Okay? :D
"You're coming across as if you expect the world to just lap up your nasty sexual preferences and love you just the same."
ARGH!
WHY AREN'T YOU GETTING IT!?
ARE YOU ALL STUPID!? IS THAT IT!?
I. HAVE. SAID. THAT. I. AM. WELL. AWARE. OF. THE. FACT. THAT. MOST. PEOPLE. AREN'T. GOING. TO. BE. ABLE. TO. ACCEPT IT.
The only reason it could possibly come off like that, is because you're not reading it. If you'd read the whole thing, top to bottom, you'd know that. You'd know that's not what I've been saying, nor was that the point of the journal. So please, go back, and read it. Actually, READ it. All the way. Don't skip anything.
JESUS FUCK. READ IT THIS TIME.
"But similarly, no-one FORCED you to admit, on no less than 8 occasions, that you were a pedo."
You're, right nobody did. However, that is no reason for me to pretend to be something I'm not. :D
OH SNAP BURN.
"If its your right to blurt that out to everyone, its other people's right to react to it. "
...
My brain wants me to tell you off for stupidity.
My heart wants me to be nice, and give you a second chance.
I'll just move on. I can't reply to that argument anymore, without going insane.
"And if you honestly think that reaction will be anything other than negative (except maybe from fellow pedos) then you need more help than I first thought."
See, there's
First, you assume that the point of the journal was to "garner positive reactions".
HAHAHAHA-no.
Secondly, you've automatically begun trying to step on your soapbox; trying to make yourself out to be a better person than I am, with the whole, "get some help" cliche.
The fact that you're trying to argue points that don't exist in what you're trying to refute, dispells that entire illusion. Sorry about your luck there.
Have a nice day! :D
"Raping animals is a bad thing to do! Maybe you're not as stupid as I thought! :D Making love to them, however, is not."
And decided that you're a lost fucking cause. If you ever tried to 'make love to' (ie, RAPE) one of my animals, your life wouldn't be worth living.
The day a dog walks up to you and says 'hey man! Fuck me hard!' then you won't hear a single word of protest from me. Until that day, you're a fucking animal raper and it doesn't matter how you try to dress it up with 'making love', thats what you're doing. And you seriously need help. Oh GOD you need help.
and since they're public, you have to accept other's replies.
unless you want to do a ban-spree. but that wouldnt block everything still.
Livin' ain't easy for a pedo in the streets. Represent.
Now, on to my message:
I hate child molesters. I think people who hurt children are arguably worse than murderers. Yet I myself draw and write cub stuff. Why? For starters, because I know the difference beteen fantasy and reality. My daydreams aren't hurting anyone in real life. But more importantly, I agree with you that a man is not a monster just for having a thought. *Acting* on a thought that you know is morally wrong; yeah, that makes you a monster. But not just having the thought in the first place.
I've noticed that people are quick to dismiss the humanity of people they find repulsive. They say serial killers acted 'like beasts' or were 'inhuman'. But all that is is a way for them to deny the possibility that they themselves could be capable of such a thing. If you turn someone you don't like into another species, then you can safely pretend you have nothing in common with them.
Uncomfortable as it is to accept, there's an evolutionary 'answer' of sorts for pedophilia. The best chance to produce offspring is to mate with a young, healthy and fertile female. Hence why youth is almost always a standard for beauty, and why people rarely find old ladies sexy. It's both understandable and predictable that in some individuals, the sexual drive to find a young mate would get mixed up and become a longing for mates that are *too* young. I think a lot of fetishes are just like being gay; you're simply born with them. And often there's no good 'reason' why a given stimulus excites you sexually. It just does. Whether you want it to or not.
Of course, pedophilia and homosexuality are completely different, and I'm not comparing the two. Two gay men can consent to having sex, while a man and a child cannot. I know you asked 'why' on the consent issue, so here's my thoughts. For starters, a child's mind isn't mature enough to accept everything that comes with sex, both emotionally and physically. It's like unripened fruit. Biologically, they're simply not ready for it. Plus, even if the child agrees, there's still the fact that the adult is older and bigger than the child, so the child will very likely agree to things they don't really want to do just because an adult is telling them to do it. As far as the magical 'age of consent' goes, the government thinks it can regulate a lot of things based on age, ignoring the fact that people mature differently and there's absolutely no way to generalize when a person's ready for something, other than by looking at each case individually. Some kids might be smart and informed enough to vote responsibly at ten. Then again, there's people well over 18 who STILL aren't mature enough to vote responsibly (i.e. anyone who's ever voted for Pat Robertson). There's people over 21 who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near alcohol, and there's people of all ages FAR too stupid to ever be allowed to drive. So basically, it's all bullshit.
Getting back to pedophiles; I think that people who dehumanize them because of their own disgust are being inhumane themselves. What help can a pedophile possibly get to help control his feelings when merely admitting to them is enough to start off a witch hunt? How is this different from people loathing the mentally ill? Or drug addicts? Or the homeless? People want these groups to just go away because they're unsightly ...but without having to do anything about the problem themselves.
I say, if society wants to control pedophilia, we need to do more than just lock up child molesters and set up internet stings. That's treating the symptom without looking at the cause. You wanna stop people from becoming pedophiles? Let's fucking burn down all the factories that make Bratz dolls! Or any other toy that teaches young girls to act like prostitutes. Let's smack some sense into the parents of these child stars who dress like burlesque dancers (Olsen Twins alert). Let's boycott film and TV people who push the idea that sexy means younger and younger and younger. Let's punish parents who allow all this to happen and who do _nothing_ when the media tells their children that growing up long before they're ready is the 'cool' thing to do. What part of 'Condemning pedophilia while making children into sex objects is mind-bogglingly hypocritical' does America not understand? We should still lock up sexual predators, but maybe we should also remove some of the temptation to become one, hmm?
That said, I also wanted to tell you this: I used to be like you. I'd write someonething in a journal, someone would reply back with anger and stupidity, and I'd feel a need to set them straight. Let me tell you a lesson I learned the hard way: DON'T. Trolls want drama. They want to provoke you so they can laugh at you when you get angry. They poke you so you'll jump. Don't Give Them What They Want. _Nothing_ pisses them off more than when you don't take their bait. So, don't take it. Let them whine and yell and throw a tantrum while you sit back and giggle at their bullshit, knowing you're the better person.
Trolls like to play a game called 'Heads I win, tails you lose'. Meaning, no matter _what_ you say, you will always be wrong. Because they don't argue with any sense of fairness. They'll harrangue you about not following proper rules of debate, while breaking every single one of them themselves. Sometimes they'll say something dumb, and you'll refute it with impeccable logic, so they'll ignore everything you've said and make fun of you because you spelled a word wrong. And sometimes they'll just drop the pretense completely that they're here to argue and just straight-up insult you. They're human shit. They're empty, useless people and it's not worth it to play their game. It wastes your time and elevates your stress levels. And all it accomplishes is providing the trolls with free entertainment. Look at it this way; if someone who ignores all rules of grammar, spelling and punctuation is calling you stupid, then why the hell would you feel any need to acknowledge them?
If someone outright insults you in a journal, ignore them. If they sound like maybe they might be reasonable, give them a chance, but be ready just in case they turn into an asshole the second time they post. And if someone seems to be doing everything possible to deliberately start a fight, either don't reply at all, or tell them as emotionlessly as possible to leave or you'll report them to the admins. And then Do Exactly That if they come back. I've found the admins hate trolls and will be more than willing to help you. Plus, most trolls are proud of it and will admit to it loudly and often, which makes it even easier for the admins to ban their asses. Getting a note that someone who's bothering you has been banned is a delightfully satisfying experience. (:
Do you know how to win an argument on the internet? Be the first one to drop it.
Good luck.
Then in the next, you say: "You wanna stop people from becoming pedophiles? Let's fucking burn down all the factories that make Bratz dolls! Or any other toy that teaches young girls to act like prostitutes"
So, are people BORN with this, as you claim in line one, or is it something society has created, as you seem to imply in line two? It can't be both.
Besides which, the argument that little girls are encouraged to look like prostitutes so therefore pedophilia is understandable is ALMOST like people who say 'she wore a short skirt, she deserved to be raped!'
So what if little girls are dressing too adult, does that mean pedophilia is justified?! Oh, I agree that its entirely wrong to have little girls dressing in the way some of them do, but I don't for a second hold that up as being an 'excuse' or reason for pedophilia!
A woman is perfectly entitled to wear a skirt the size of 4 teabags and have her cleavage on show without expecting to be dragged into an alley and raped! The same goes for little girls. We may not agree or like the way some of them are dressed, but that in NO WAY is a cause of pedophilia or a justification for it.
It's a shame my morals clash too much with yours, we could of been good friends
I'm just not sure anymore, I need to search for my soul and return to my real gallery one day
Take care, I suppose...
skimmed.
Conslusion?
GODDAMN FUCKING DISGUSTING.
I'm well and truly disturbed. Fuck D:
General Reply to everyone:
My .02, if you don't act upon a particularly "dangerous" fetish, ex. gore, then you are no more dangerous or deranged than supposedly normal people, who I guarantee have skeletons of their own hiding in their closets.
A good adage: Do what you will, yet harm none.
"So... umm... you're a pedophile?" Who gives a rat's ass?!? I certainly don't. I like you for who you are, and I hope other people think the same about me.
Fine work.
And how the hell is anyone sane enough to accept you as what you are? I mean, both a pedophile AND a zoophile? Jesus Christ man, you need therapy.